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ipoopPromicin
dry.gif Hey guys! I'm new here! I was looking over the message boards and I must say, I was a little disappointed. I'm interested in serious theories and predictions. Not "what if I took Promicin" or so-and-so is "HAWT" and junk like that.
Okay....tell me what ya think:

1) Future People- Obviously, it has been apparent, that there are at least two seperate forces from the future working against each other to alter the timeline. Which do you think that future lady is from? Who do you think Jordan and Isabelle represent? Opposite sides or the same side?

2) In general, that book of prophecies....do you think it could be a trick by Cassie? Whose side is she really on? I think she may actually be the entity that was taking over Kyle's body in the beginning, only now that he took the shot, he can converse with her.

3) Isabelle- could she have interpreted that "list of names" incorrectly on purpose to kill off those key in "saving the future"? Or will she ignore what she was told by Matthew, feeling that she had been lied to, and actually save the day?

4)Shawn- Do you think that now that he knows what will happen if that politician is in power, that he may eventually use his ability (by sucking life out of him) to scare hin out of the election? As far as him being blindfolded, do you think it's because he may be taken to meet with JC? If he doesn't believe in what Jordan is doing with the Promicin, how will he be a part of the prophecy?

NOTE: I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK HE'S HOOKING UP WITH ISABELLE AGAIN! NO LOVE TRIANGLE THERE!

5) Alana-Is it possible that she had something to do with the prophecy book and White Light since she was replanted back into the timeline? Maybe?

6) And how come Maia isn't the "Shaman"? She has actual visions of what's to come? Kyle is being told by "something" and just believes it. There is no actual "vision".

KYLE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! I fart in his general direction!

That's it for now, I guess. Please feel free to lend your thoughts.



Bubba_Bridges
Hi Bubba here, wow! I don't know about others, but please darken your text where I can read your post.
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Jul 20 2007, 10:58 PM) *
Hi Bubba here, wow! I don't know about others, but please darken your text where I can read your post.



Sorry about that Bubba. Will do. biggrin.gif
zippylittlerat
Hmm...as far as 'Sarah' goes, It think she's in the 'good' side, simply because that's all we know. Plus, she was clearly parf of the faction that created the 4400, and I'm reluctant to think of their whole mission to be for something negative.

I don't know what the deal is with this prophecy book. I'm guessing it was seeded by a PFTF about 90 years ago, meant to fuel Jordan's movement. Whodunnit? No idea. Good? Bad? No clue! Maybe the Marked will help. And as far as Isabelle, while I can see her having a plan up her sleeve, I think she honestly is bitter about being used, and will try to take control of her own destiny. That may mean steering far away from what she was told.

And everything else, I'm pretty much clueless on. I don't remember Shawn being blindfolded though. Was that in the preview for next week's ep?
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (zippylittlerat @ Jul 21 2007, 12:42 AM) *
Hmm...as far as 'Sarah' goes, It think she's in the 'good' side, simply because that's all we know. Plus, she was clearly parf of the faction that created the 4400, and I'm reluctant to think of their whole mission to be for something negative.

I don't know what the deal is with this prophecy book. I'm guessing it was seeded by a PFTF about 90 years ago, meant to fuel Jordan's movement. Whodunnit? No idea. Good? Bad? No clue! Maybe the Marked will help. And as far as Isabelle, while I can see her having a plan up her sleeve, I think she honestly is bitter about being used, and will try to take control of her own destiny. That may mean steering far away from what she was told.

And everything else, I'm pretty much clueless on. I don't remember Shawn being blindfolded though. Was that in the preview for next week's ep?


HeY! Thanks for your imput. I appreciate it! biggrin.gif
Yeah, Shawn being blinded was actually from Maia's diary. I'm just making a guess as to why.
I hope that the rest of the season answers some more questions about the future ppl. Maybe in this weeks episode since they are introducing those 10 agents.
EasyMac
QUOTE (Bubba_Bridges @ Jul 20 2007, 10:58 PM) *
Hi Bubba here, wow! I don't know about others, but please darken your text where I can read your post.

Holy moley, YES! My old eyes can't read it! LOL
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (EasyMac @ Jul 21 2007, 06:10 AM) *
Holy moley, YES! My old eyes can't read it! LOL



Oops! I appologize for the light print, it won't happen again! LOL
zipity
QUOTE (ipoopPromicin @ Jul 21 2007, 10:38 AM) *
Oops! I appologize for the light print, it won't happen again! LOL



You know you can edit your post? There's a button on the bottom left of it, click on it and then full edit, highlight your text and then pick a different color. Hope I made that clear enough, don't do too well with giving directions sometimes!
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (zipity @ Jul 21 2007, 11:10 AM) *
You know you can edit your post? There's a button on the bottom left of it, click on it and then full edit, highlight your text and then pick a different color. Hope I made that clear enough, don't do too well with giving directions sometimes!


Thanks for the tip! tongue.gif
moccat
QUOTE (ipoopPromicin @ Jul 21 2007, 04:45 AM) *
dry.gif Hey guys! I'm new here! I was looking over the message boards and I must say, I was a little disappointed. I'm interested in serious theories and predictions. Not "what if I took Promicin" or so-and-so is "HAWT" and junk like that.
Okay....tell me what ya think:


I think that you ought to do a little more looking around this forum.

Seach and you shall find - seriouse - I belive that all the there has been at least 1 if not more treads analysing the topics that you are asking about.

I know that we have been around them all - perhaps just go to page 2 or 3 and have a new look. rolleyes.gif

ohh also I think that the Shawn thing and the blindfolding ( from the diary) will have to wait until after the show has been aired on Sunday.
zipity
Well, first off welcome to the boards, I hope you enjoy it here. We got some great thinkers and some goofy ones so we are always having fun!

1) I am with Zippy in thinking that maybe Sarah is from the good faction, only because she tried to get that shot into Tom's hand before Isabelle went entirely "Kill 4400s" crazy. My original theory was that Isabelle was implanted in Lilly by a spy from the opposing faction and Matthew was sent to ensure that she followed her intended path... OR it's possible she was intended to be good and Matthew was planted in order to turn her to the Dark side. I refuse to believe that the 4400s purpose could be evil/bad so I think that they are on the good side and Matthew is a member of the bad side. Since Jordan has been returned I have been sceptic, I did have a theory that somehow having promicin prevents the catastrophe from effecting you so greatly which is why they sent the 4400 here where those with the Starzl mutation reside but the distribution has thrown me off. I am wondering if either the future saw that there weren't enough people with the Starzl and promicin getting together and took more drastic measures or there is something more sinister at hand. Perhaps the bad side knew there would be a 50% risk and if they played their cards right they could get Jordan to hand it out without perfecting it first. Either way I don't think that Jordan actually lived out what he believes he did, I think it was either shown to him through an ability like Alana's or some kind of virtual reality. As of right now I am not sure what to think as far as Isabelle goes or which side brought Jordan back.

2/5) I do think it is very likely that Alana has something, if not everything, to do with the Prophesy book. She could have very well been given some additional information when she was re-abducted, if Alana has something to do with the book than I think it would be the result of the side Sarah is on seeing as she told Tom he would regret it if he had not killed Isabelle and I think that is why Alana was taken. I think it is also possible that Cassie could honestly be Kyle's ability although most seem to think she is from the future. That is an interesting thought though.

3) Again not sure what I think about Isabelle at this point, although I want to believe that she is trying to reform. For now I am skeptically believing her, I think she did interpret the book correctly, the more pressing question is who's side is the book on? Now if they find a section in the book that tells them how to make the shot safer then I will definately believe it's from the good side. tongue.gif She said she was used by the future and I think she believes that but is she really doing what she can to help or because she doesn't have much choice? For now I am leaning towards she really wants to help but that is subject to change.

4) I know he trusts Maia and her visions, he believes her but he's not going to "attack" someone with an extremely good reason(kind of like Tom with Isabelle), perhaps he will find reason to believe that he is possessed with something like Kyle was and will remove it for him. I think to try and scare that guy would be a bad idea though, it could end up adding fuel to the man's fire instead. I missed that about him being blindfolded but it does seem interesting, hard to say at this point, could be someone trying to scare him, might have something to do with the agents from the future, or it could be Jordan guess we will find out soon. I think that Shawn might scoff the prophecy book, I don't know how seriously he would take it if he finds out and we really don't know what the book says about him anyway, maybe he is already following the path that is suggested by the book?

I definitely don't think him and Isabelle will hook up either, that would be a bad idea. Maybe sometime in the very, very, very, very distant future they could learn to be friends?

6) Maia is a precog she simply has visions and nothing else. There is a lot more to a Shaman than that, a shaman has a connection to the spirit world and usually has a spirit guide as well. Aborigines believe in something called the Dream Time that is connected to the spirit world and in this Dream Time time itself is relative. I think it is very possible that Cassie is Kyle's spirit guide and being a spirit she is able to access the Dream Time allowing her to know of past and future events in great detail. Also, I remember reading that the writers said his ability would be hard to explain.

QUOTE (ipoopPromicin @ Jul 21 2007, 11:16 AM) *
Thanks for the tip! tongue.gif


You are very welcome! I am glad to help smile.gif
EasyMac
QUOTE (Elessar @ Jul 21 2007, 02:15 PM) *
I was thinking that maybe Shawn goes to see Jordan now that he will be back in Seattle. Either Shawn seeks him out or vice versa and Shawn is blindfolded so that he doesn't know Jordan's exact where-a-bouts. Something Maia said in her diary about she doesn't know if Shawn can help regarding her vision and the senator and if Shawn can't help who can makes me think that maybe Jordan can help. At least that's what I'm hoping for. I want to see Jordan interact with Shawn to see where their relationship lies.


I agree with both the bolded comments, Elessar. There has got to be a meeting between Shawn and Jordan... they'll stake their claims and sides will be drawn up. Or not. It will be very interesting to watch them come face to face.
zippylittlerat
Zipity, that's a good point with Maia. She really doesn't talk to anyone from her visions, or the future, unless you count Sarah. I wonder if Sarah will appear as one of the ten agents? Hopefully not, because I want to see her on the good side, but maybe she'll show up anyway, as an agent stopping the bad agents.

Or, has anyone thought that these "10 agents" may just be a plot in Curtis Peck's movie, and might not actually show up in the show? I hope not, but I'm trying to consider all angles.
Phanta
QUOTE (zippylittlerat @ Jul 21 2007, 04:12 PM) *
Zipity, that's a good point with Maia. She really doesn't talk to anyone from her visions, or the future, unless you count Sarah. I wonder if Sarah will appear as one of the ten agents? Hopefully not, because I want to see her on the good side, but maybe she'll show up anyway, as an agent stopping the bad agents.

Or, has anyone thought that these "10 agents" may just be a plot in Curtis Peck's movie, and might not actually show up in the show? I hope not, but I'm trying to consider all angles.

Didnt' they show them in the commercial?
zipity
QUOTE (Phanta @ Jul 21 2007, 05:34 PM) *
Didnt' they show them in the commercial?



Yeah but the episode has something to do with a 4400 named Curtis Peck who is a conspiracy film maker, his next movie is to be named "The Marked"

I agree with EasyMac and Elessar as well, it should be interesting if we get to see Shawn and Jordan meet. That should be an intense scene!

Thanks Zippy, I try to make sense but I don't think I am always successful at it huh.gif That is some good thinking about the movie it could be possible!
Dobie
QUOTE (zipity @ Jul 21 2007, 09:33 PM) *
Yeah but the episode has something to do with a 4400 named Curtis Peck who is a conspiracy film maker, his next movie is to be named "The Marked"

I agree with EasyMac and Elessar as well, it should be interesting if we get to see Shawn and Jordan meet. That should be an intense scene!

Thanks Zippy, I try to make sense but I don't think I am always successful at it huh.gif That is some good thinking about the movie it could be possible!

I was sick for a couple of days and missed some stuff. Did you guys discuss Curtis Peck's webpage?
I could look for myself but there's so much!
evenstar22
rolleyes.gif hey newcomer i'm about two months old on the site and i can tell u for a fatc if u go back a few pages you'll see we've had some serious thoeries floating around and great discussions a few pages back but anyway it's great to have some1 new intake on them ,anyway i (dont want to put any spoilers out) but the reason shawn is blindfolded is coz kyle is gonna take him to see some1 who dunno...!!!! and obviously he cant let them pinpoint the location to ntac unsure.gif
evenstar22
i know for a fact it is not jordan he is going to meet.....like 90percent sure but i could be wrong. U know how u read all sort of erroneous stuff on the net tra la la la..!!!!! i'll say no more
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (evenstar22 @ Jul 22 2007, 01:21 AM) *
i know for a fact it is not jordan he is going to meet.....like 90percent sure but i could be wrong. U know how u read all sort of erroneous stuff on the net tra la la la..!!!!! i'll say no more


I guess it could be Isabelle Kyle is taking him to see. Or maybe Kyle needs Shawn to heal someone in Jordan's little secret "cult". I dunno. I'm tired of thinking. We'll find out tomorrow.
Hmmmm...
zoey11
I do think eventually Shawn and Collier will have a show down
Isabelle will be brought to Shawn have a healing of her allergy and may re gain one or more of her use to be abilities.
I do not think Isabella will destroy the 4400 but be used to fight against Collier

The politician shown last week with mia's prediction looks like it may be a possible happening.
There is a chance that time travel will be used again and Alana will make a reappearance
Diana's hubby not as he seems to be , Still hoping Diana and Marco get together eventually
zippylittlerat
It would be pretty cool to see Alana again, and even though I'm sure 'Alana' is more than willing to see her beloved Thomas, I don't think Karina is so much. tongue.gif I think they officially tied her little loose end up.

They were showing the ten agents? I mean, I know they showed people running around with needle-guns, but you know these previews! They can be somewhat manipulative at times.
Dobie
QUOTE (zoey11 @ Jul 22 2007, 10:30 AM) *
Diana's hubby not as he seems to be , Still hoping Diana and Marco get together eventually

I feel kind of stupid. Posts keep referring to Ben as Diana's husband. I often miss little details (I can usually pick them up here) because of the hectic household going on around me. When did they get married? I mean, I remember the vision, just not the marriage.
zippylittlerat
They're not married yet, Dobie. They're just...involved? Sorta engaged, except their proposal wasn't "Sweetheart, will you marry me," but, "Guess what my daughter saw us doing?" But don't worry, you didn't miss the wedding!
rockingmule
QUOTE (zoey11 @ Jul 22 2007, 09:30 AM) *
I do think eventually Shawn and Collier will have a show down
Isabelle will be brought to Shawn have a healing of her allergy and may re gain one or more of her use to be abilities.
I do not think Isabella will destroy the 4400 but be used to fight against Collier

The politician shown last week with mia's prediction looks like it may be a possible happening.
There is a chance that time travel will be used again and Alana will make a reappearance
Diana's hubby not as he seems to be , Still hoping Diana and Marco get together eventually


Isabelle is on Jordan's side now-at least it appears that way, and I personally always thought that's where she was supposed to be. I think the PFTF have a lot to worry about now that Jordan and Isabelle have teamed up, and that's why Matthew was so anxious to keep them apart when Jordan first returned. According to the producers, Alana will not be returning because there were contract disputes. And Shawn hired extra security when he heard Isabelle escaped-I don't see him getting anywhere near her for the forseeable future, and even if he did, I doubt he would ever willingly use his healing power on her. As to Shawn and Jordan, I hope they will reconcile-those two need each other.
Dobie
QUOTE (zippylittlerat @ Jul 22 2007, 12:44 PM) *
They're not married yet, Dobie. They're just...involved? Sorta engaged, except their proposal wasn't "Sweetheart, will you marry me," but, "Guess what my daughter saw us doing?" But don't worry, you didn't miss the wedding!

Good. I saw the same thing on a couple of other threads. After I saw it a lot of times I was sure I missed something. I didn't want to sound unforgivably stupid.
ipoopPromicin
QUOTE (evenstar22 @ Jul 22 2007, 01:21 AM) *
i know for a fact it is not jordan he is going to meet.....like 90percent sure but i could be wrong. U know how u read all sort of erroneous stuff on the net tra la la la..!!!!! i'll say no more


Guess you were 100% wrong. Nice touch of sarcasm there!
Imitar
QUOTE (rockingmule @ Jul 22 2007, 01:20 PM) *
I doubt he would ever willingly use his healing power on her. As to Shawn and Jordan, I hope they will reconcile-those two need each other.


I don't know about that rock. I mean, Shawn healed Gabriel, he evidently doesn't discriminate.
Phanta
QUOTE (Imitar @ Jul 22 2007, 10:52 PM) *
I don't know about that rock. I mean, Shawn healed Gabriel, he evidently doesn't discriminate.

The one thing I always like about Shawn was that he was that way.
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