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TheGoddessDivine
QUOTE (KimberyET @ Jul 23 2008, 12:14 AM) *
Thank you. I do care for him, very much. He seems like so much like me at that age...its kind of weird, but I feel connected to him because of that.
We have been doing all kinds of things with him and are taking him again tomorrow. He is afraid of so many things and is not willing to try since he says "mommy said I can't or i shouldn't. My thoughts are, if I can show him that HE CAN...maybe he won't be so afraid and will be more willing to do these things when he gets back home.
My little sister spent lots of time with him while she was visiting as well. They, her and her bf, taught him all kinds of sports and mentored him as much as possible with the time they had.
I just hope it all stick when he goes back home.



Wishing you the best.....Aunt KimT is giving him a great example. Hopefully he takes it home with him.
DoodBooMom
From personal experience, dealing with the whole autism thing is horrible.

My nephew was diagnosed with Aspbergers. My oldest son has what is called developmental delay.
My number one recommendation is to find a Good Neurodevelopment pediatrician. I was lucky when I was referred to one Dr, only to be told there was a year and a half waiting list for an appt. Then talking to other people was referred to one about a 90 mile drive from us. This Dr is WONDERFUL!!
I cant tell how many times in meeting with social workers (who in Pa takes care of getting kids like my son the help they need) that my son is autistic. I pull out my paper from my Dr and say"No he isn't" I kinda sound like an a-hole but I have to say "Do I believe you, or a Dr who studied at John Hopkins and the Mayo Clinic??" The problem I have now is that he is no longer eligable for the one therapy he used to get, and where they said was the perfect fit for him to get ready for school, we make to much money (you have to make under $20,000 for a family of 4 to join) My poor son in in Limbo.

Anyway, I do believe that they diagnose autism way to much, and that they are readily given drugs too fast.

OK, off my rant.....If anyone ever has questions about it, feel free to PM me, glad to help others!
gorens_veal
QUOTE (DoodBooMom @ Jul 23 2008, 02:29 PM) *
The problem I have now is that he is no longer eligable for the one therapy he used to get, and where they said was the perfect fit for him to get ready for school, we make to much money (you have to make under $20,000 for a family of 4 to join) My poor son in in Limbo.

Anyway, I do believe that they diagnose autism way to much, and that they are readily given drugs too fast.

OK, off my rant.....If anyone ever has questions about it, feel free to PM me, glad to help others!


My daughter was ruled ineligible to receive OT services at school because she didn't have enough "wrong" with her, just handwriting issues. Our pediatrician wrote a prescription given to the school nurse that she receive OT services. Try that in desperation.

I think that sometimes it is too easy to assign a label to someone just to have an answer.
Lisa K
My son is 14 years old and has autistic spectrum disorder. I was exceptionally lucky that he was diagnosed back in 1996, when he was just two and a half years old. I had a GP who was 'on the ball' so to speak in that he was willing to entertain the possibility that there was something not quite right with my boy and also a health visitor who was also willing to listen (there are a lot of GP's and HV's here who think they know better and won't or refuse to listen to a parent's legitimate concerns about their child, it's scary but i am also a person who will not be fobbed off where my kids are concerned). Anyhow...autism back then was seen as a 'last chance' diagnosis...in that they'd gone through a list and that was what was left. Nowadays that's not the case, what with the controversy about vaccinations and that alleged link, it's more in the public eye these days so i don't personally think that it's a case of 'too many' diagnoses of autism, i think it's a case of doctor's being better informed and more educated. It's a pity the pencil pushers who allocate treatment/therapy/financial aid don't feel the same sometimes.

My son is pretty easy going. He has developmental delay, his social skills are very immature to non existent and he has behavioural problems as well as the mental retardation that goes hand in hand with an autism diagnosis (not an Aspergers, that's the crucial difference between an 'autism' and an 'Asperger' diagnosis, the IQ level). I'm also in the UK, where access to the services that my son needs are fortunately available to him. We(his dad and i) don't have a social worker assigned, i feel we don't need one but we know there is one available for us if we need one. Similarly we have access to a psychologist (he hasn't seen one since he was eight years old) should we need it. He's a pretty happy kid, really into music at the moment (he has an interest in Madonna at the mo') he's about five inches taller than me with feet twice my size (just about literally...he has close to Goren sized feet).I honestly wouldn't change a single millimeter of him.

I know CI have covered AS in an episode, and it was briefly touched upon (though not expanded on) in a season siz ep (the one Eames tells the boy she works with Batman), but i'd be interested in seeing Goren interact with a child/young adult on the ASD spectrum. Just my thoughts smile.gif
TheGoddessDivine
found this near the bottom of page 2 and had to bring it up, but with a question....anyway!

OK, asking this and not sure if it's been addressed in the other pages (didn't feel like reading through all of them)....anyway! Here's my question:


I've seen online (forget which site, might be a link from imdb) a list of all the guest stars on CI, and Tony Goldwyn is listed as both Michael Goren and Frank Goren. Is Frank one of these people that go by their middle name and his name is actually Michael Frank Goren? I don't ever recall hearing him called Michael in any episode, and if I remember right in the epi description for Brother's Keeper I think he's listed as Michael Goren. Or did the writers just decide to change the name?

jryan62
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Jul 27 2008, 03:56 PM) *
found this near the bottom of page 2 and had to bring it up, but with a question....anyway!

OK, asking this and not sure if it's been addressed in the other pages (didn't feel like reading through all of them)....anyway! Here's my question:


I've seen online (forget which site, might be a link from imdb) a list of all the guest stars on CI, and Tony Goldwyn is listed as both Michael Goren and Frank Goren. Is Frank one of these people that go by their middle name and his name is actually Michael Frank Goren? I don't ever recall hearing him called Michael in any episode, and if I remember right in the epi description for Brother's Keeper I think he's listed as Michael Goren. Or did the writers just decide to change the name?


He was original supposed to be called Micheal Goren, but I guess they decided to call him Frank, I am not sure if it was due to the fact that a killer on SVU was named Michael Goren.
RabekaJr
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Jul 27 2008, 05:08 PM) *
He was original supposed to be called Micheal Goren, but I guess they decided to call him Frank, I am not sure if it was due to the fact that a killer on SVU was named Michael Goren.


They used the last name Goren on SVU? Did they run out of last names or something?
jryan62
QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Jul 27 2008, 04:26 PM) *
They used the last name Goren on SVU? Did they run out of last names or something?



I actually think the episode was before CI. But don't remember. I just wonder after they decided on Michael Goren if someone looked it up and realized it was used as a Murderers name.
FusseKat
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Jul 27 2008, 05:35 PM) *
I actually think the episode was before CI. But don't remember. I just wonder after they decided on Michael Goren if someone looked it up and realized it was used as a Murderers name.


Yep, it was SVU's 2nd Season's first episode, predating CI.... "Wrong is Right" - a great episode.
TheGoddessDivine
QUOTE (jryan62 @ Jul 27 2008, 04:08 PM) *
He was original supposed to be called Micheal Goren, but I guess they decided to call him Frank, I am not sure if it was due to the fact that a killer on SVU was named Michael Goren.



QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Jul 27 2008, 04:26 PM) *
They used the last name Goren on SVU? Did they run out of last names or something?



QUOTE (jryan62 @ Jul 27 2008, 07:35 PM) *
I actually think the episode was before CI. But don't remember. I just wonder after they decided on Michael Goren if someone looked it up and realized it was used as a Murderers name.



QUOTE (FusseKat @ Jul 27 2008, 09:09 PM) *
Yep, it was SVU's 2nd Season's first episode, predating CI.... "Wrong is Right" - a great episode.


Thanks everyone! Glad to know I wasn't going nuts or imagining things.
BlaZer
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Jul 30 2008, 12:45 PM) *
Thanks everyone! Glad to know I wasn't going nuts or imagining things.


No, you are not imagining things.
pfchristine
But the going nuts part might be open to interpretation.... Hee Hee Hee
TheGoddessDivine
QUOTE (pfchristine @ Jul 30 2008, 02:50 PM) *
But the going nuts part might be open to interpretation.... Hee Hee Hee



I like teach's description of family (at least hers) as "Planter's Party Pack of Nuts". Fits mine to a T.

just sayin! tee hee
pfchristine
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Jul 30 2008, 02:52 PM) *
I like teach's description of family (at least hers) as "Planter's Party Pack of Nuts". Fits mine to a T.

just sayin! tee hee



<laughin>
krodgers
QUOTE (TheGoddessDivine @ Jul 30 2008, 03:52 PM) *
I like teach's description of family (at least hers) as "Planter's Party Pack of Nuts". Fits mine to a T.

just sayin! tee hee
laugh.gif laugh.gif
ciaddict
QUOTE (dramalover @ Feb 25 2006, 10:33 AM) *
It is an interesting show. Enjoy it a lot.

CI likes to reflect a lot of real events happened in the world. That's nice. But, I wonder how much reality check they do before showing it. At least the things about China seems quite out of fact to me.

On episode "CHINOISERIE" season 2, they talk about that China has "compulsory military". I am from China, I never heard about that. In China, most people who join the army are from countryside, where people want to get better life through military service. Pretty much like here in US. "Half Chinese in NY were in PLA"? Cannot believe it. Nowadays, the immigrants from China are mostly through H1B. They usually got college education from China. College guys definitely don't go to military.

The Chinese nickname they gave to that evil Chinese guy does not make sence at all. "Fa Pi Qi Sha Ren" is a verb. In China, you don't use a verb to be a nickname, especially for someone you hate.

In episode "FALSE-HEARTED JUDGES" season 4, the killers use "Gou Qi berry" for their vision enhancement. Well, they are correct that "Gou Qi berry" is good for your eyes, but these berries are not so expensive and exotic as described in the show. "200 bucks for a bag in NY"? cannot believe it. I can buy that with 5 bucks in Chinese grocery store around SF bay area.



I find the most interesting things when I go through the old, old threads.
RabekaJr
Stupidest question ever, but in View From Up Here, in the beginning before the credits when the girl is looking through the door listening to the conversation, is she wearing contact lenses? You can see a closeup of her eye, and it just looked like she had a contact lense on. Just wondering what other people thought.
Gorens0Girl
QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Jul 31 2008, 03:51 PM) *
Stupidest question ever, but in View From Up Here, in the beginning before the credits when the girl is looking through the door listening to the conversation, is she wearing contact lenses? You can see a closeup of her eye, and it just looked like she had a contact lense on. Just wondering what other people thought.


I dont know- never noticed and since we dont have it on DVD (grrrr!) I can't go check.
But, speaking of contacts...I have always wondered if VDO wears contacts or glasses. You would think that you could see the contacts on some of the closeups of his eyes, but I have never noticed. Anyone know?


I have a question about "Monster" (the epi abt the yuppie murderer and the bad cop who framed the kids). THere is a scene where VDO is reading from a psychological book, "Remorseful, predatory, charming..." Eames says, "Anyone we know?" THe first million times I saw it- I figured she was talking about the suspect, but the other day, I thought, "Is it a snark against Bobby?" He could be considered all of those things.
KimberyET
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Jul 31 2008, 02:37 PM) *
I find the most interesting things when I go through the old, old threads.


So do I. you learn a lot of things around here sometimes.
Jryan
another oldie but goodie!
DaCarz
What episode was it when Goren and Logan first met?
tlc
QUOTE (DaCarz @ Aug 28 2008, 01:16 AM) *
What episode was it when Goren and Logan first met?



The first episode that Logan was in was Stress Position (Season 4). It's the one with the unrecorded prisoners courtesy of the Patriot Act and one of the people caught up in the case was Logan's girlfriend who was a nurse at the prison.
ahssnarechick
What episode is it that G&E are on a stakeout in the back of an NYPD van or something, and Eames is sleeping, when Goren pours her a cup of coffee from a Thermos and is like "it's your turn" or something? It's been driving me crazy, because I keep thinking the ep. has something to do with drugs, but I don't remember. mellow.gif
RabekaJr
QUOTE (ahssnarechick @ Aug 28 2008, 01:43 PM) *
What episode is it that G&E are on a stakeout in the back of an NYPD van or something, and Eames is sleeping, when Goren pours her a cup of coffee from a Thermos and is like "it's your turn" or something? It's been driving me crazy, because I keep thinking the ep. has something to do with drugs, but I don't remember. mellow.gif


The episode is Silver Lining. Bobby was really excited in that episode tongue.gif
ahssnarechick
QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Aug 28 2008, 01:48 PM) *
The episode is Silver Lining. Bobby was really excited in that episode tongue.gif


Thank you! I kept thinking it was Suite Sorrow for some reason, but knew it couldn't have been right. At least I was right about it starting with an "S". wink.gif
jcsavestheday
I don't remember this ep very well, but I'm sure that someone will be able to piece it together for me:

What is the name of the episode with the person who's husband was killed on 9/11 (but not in the towers) and his wife had his sister look into his insurance or some mess and the sister ended up getting killed. I know that it is from one of the early seasons, perhaps even 3. The crime that happened in the episode was that the man's sister was killed, and the part that I remember is that she was being followed around by some man named Ben.

Anyone?

RabekaJr
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Aug 28 2008, 02:51 PM) *
I don't remember this ep very well, but I'm sure that someone will be able to piece it together for me:

What is the name of the episode with the person who's husband was killed on 9/11 (but not in the towers) and his wife had his sister look into his insurance or some mess and the sister ended up getting killed. I know that it is from one of the early seasons, perhaps even 3. The crime that happened in the episode was that the man's sister was killed, and the part that I remember is that she was being followed around by some man named Ben.

Anyone?


But Not Forgotten? The one with Frida, the ex-cop and his wife and a hit-man ?
pfchristine
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Aug 28 2008, 01:51 PM) *
I don't remember this ep very well, but I'm sure that someone will be able to piece it together for me:

What is the name of the episode with the person who's husband was killed on 9/11 (but not in the towers) and his wife had his sister look into his insurance or some mess and the sister ended up getting killed. I know that it is from one of the early seasons, perhaps even 3. The crime that happened in the episode was that the man's sister was killed, and the part that I remember is that she was being followed around by some man named Ben.

Anyone?



QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Aug 28 2008, 01:58 PM) *
But Not Forgotten? The one with Frida, the ex-cop and his wife and a hit-man ?


That's it, but the sister was looking into and IRS tax audit, not insurance.
jcsavestheday
QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Aug 28 2008, 01:58 PM) *
But Not Forgotten? The one with Frida, the ex-cop and his wife and a hit-man ?



Thanks. I'm proud of myself, I guessed the season accurately. I made it to where I could watch some eps on y laptop through ly home network, but the name of the show and episode titles do not transfer. I started watching this ep a few days ago, and I realiezed that I hadn't seen it before. Or alt least to where I can remember.
RabekaJr
QUOTE (jcsavestheday @ Aug 28 2008, 03:13 PM) *
Thanks. I'm proud of myself, I guessed the season accurately. I made it to where I could watch some eps on y laptop through ly home network, but the name of the show and episode titles do not transfer. I started watching this ep a few days ago, and I realiezed that I hadn't seen it before. Or alt least to where I can remember.


Your welcome, jc.

Question: Why the heck has Bobby never gone on Jeopardy? He'd have a longer streak than Ken Jennings! Eames should secretly sign him up...
DragonEmpress
Was Nicole married to Gavin Haynes? What happened to their marriage?
pfchristine
QUOTE (DragonEmpress @ Sep 1 2008, 04:04 PM) *
Was Nicole married to Gavin Haynes? What happened to their marriage?



Yes, they were married shortly before "A Person of Interest", giving Nicole (who was still calling herself Elizabeth Hitchens) the US citizenship she needed to avoid extradition to Australia for a financial crime committed by the woman who's identity she stole.

They were divorced sometime between "A Person of Interest" and "Great Barrier". The reason given by Gavin was that he wanted children and she couldn't have them and wouldn't consider trying. I suspect there was more to it than that... I think he also got some inkling that the woman he fell in love with was a fabrication of Nicole's and that something darker lay beneath it, but we don't know for sure.
bensonbrave
BUMP!!! (we again need this thread, and need to get rid of that offensive thread)
arwen999
QUOTE (pfchristine @ Sep 1 2008, 05:30 PM) *
Yes, they were married shortly before "A Person of Interest", giving Nicole (who was still calling herself Elizabeth Hitchens) the US citizenship she needed to avoid extradition to Australia for a financial crime committed by the woman who's identity she stole.

They were divorced sometime between "A Person of Interest" and "Great Barrier". The reason given by Gavin was that he wanted children and she couldn't have them and wouldn't consider trying. I suspect there was more to it than that... I think he also got some inkling that the woman he fell in love with was a fabrication of Nicole's and that something darker lay beneath it, but we don't know for sure.



I agree. I don't think she could keep the facade of the good wife for long.
EO4EVR
in what episode was Alex pregnant?
ciaddict
QUOTE (EO4EVR @ Sep 22 2008, 03:06 AM) *
in what episode was Alex pregnant?


She was pregnant for the first part of season 3. The first episode, Undaunted Mettle, has her telling the captain. The next three episodes she is still working and her clothes are getting looser. Then we have the 7 Bishop episodes. Eames made an appearance in 3 of those (Stray, A Murderer Among Us, and Sound Bodies). F.P.S. is the one where Bobby gets a text message at the end saying the baby had been born. Then she was back for the next episode, Unrequited. And BTW, according to the time stamps on those episodes, they have Alex back at work about 2 weeks after giving birth. What a woman!

I've been watching season 3 for the last couple of weeks while I'm working on my fanfic. rolleyes.gif
InfinityStar
[/quote name='ciaddict' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:02 AM' post='977015']
She was pregnant for the first part of season 3. The first episode, Undaunted Mettle, has her telling the captain. The next three episodes she is still working and her clothes are getting looser. Then we have the 7 Bishop episodes. Eames made an appearance in 3 of those (Stray, A Murderer Among Us, and Sound Bodies). F.P.S. is the one where Bobby gets a text message at the end saying the baby had been born. Then she was back for the next episode, Unrequited. And BTW, according to the time stamps on those episodes, they have Alex back at work about 2 weeks after giving birth. What a woman!

I've been watching season 3 for the last couple of weeks while I'm working on my fanfic. rolleyes.gif
[/quote]

I really miss the timestamps. They told us when the episodes took place and gave us a feel for how long they were working each case. Like "Art" (S1#2)--that case took them over a month to solve!
EO4EVR
thanks
Jryan
QUOTE (EO4EVR @ Sep 22 2008, 08:26 AM) *
thanks



who is that guy?
ciaddict
QUOTE (Jryan @ Nov 12 2008, 10:51 AM) *
who is that guy?



Umm....one of the Jonas brothers maybe?
Jryan
QUOTE (ciaddict @ Nov 13 2008, 04:30 PM) *
Umm....one of the Jonas brothers maybe?



Oh I was thinking Menudo, are they still around?
Daisie
The episode 'A murderer among us', is on right now. Is it just me, or does the red head Claire look like the killer in 'seeds'?
NLfann
QUOTE (Daisie @ Nov 17 2008, 10:31 PM) *
The episode 'A murderer among us', is on right now. Is it just me, or does the red head Claire look like the killer in 'seeds'?


The Law and Order: Criminal Intent epguide is the best place to check for that type of information. All you have to do is click on the episode name and all the basic episode information is provided, including the names of guest stars. Here is the link: http://www.epguides.com/LawandOrderCriminalIntent/
Jryan
If any newbies have a question about CI here is a good place to ask.
TheGoddessDivine
QUOTE (InfinityStar @ Sep 22 2008, 08:50 AM) *
[/quote name='ciaddict' date='Sep 22 2008, 09:02 AM' post='977015']
She was pregnant for the first part of season 3. The first episode, Undaunted Mettle, has her telling the captain. The next three episodes she is still working and her clothes are getting looser. Then we have the 7 Bishop episodes. Eames made an appearance in 3 of those (Stray, A Murderer Among Us, and Sound Bodies). F.P.S. is the one where Bobby gets a text message at the end saying the baby had been born. Then she was back for the next episode, Unrequited. And BTW, according to the time stamps on those episodes, they have Alex back at work about 2 weeks after giving birth. What a woman!

I've been watching season 3 for the last couple of weeks while I'm working on my fanfic. rolleyes.gif


I really miss the timestamps. They told us when the episodes took place and gave us a feel for how long they were working each case. Like "Art" (S1#2)--that case took them over a month to solve!



Me too! I miss the time stamps and the "doink doink" during the epis--anyone know why these were stopped (I think after Season 5)?
icarus74
The pictures of VDO in a green work shirt with a white t-shirt underneath - does anyone know what movie/series of LOCI those are from? Please let me know as I've seen so much of his work but can't place those pics. Thanks in advance.

Happy New Year to All! Yes we Can! Yes we Did!
DetectiveC
QUOTE (icarus74 @ Dec 31 2008, 12:01 AM) *
The pictures of VDO in a green work shirt with a white t-shirt underneath - does anyone know what movie/series of LOCI those are from? Please let me know as I've seen so much of his work but can't place those pics. Thanks in advance.

Happy New Year to All! Yes we Can! Yes we Did!


If you are referring to a CI episode, those pics are likely from "The Third Horseman" in Season 1. Goren went undercover in a soup kitchen to arrest an anti-abortion activist, who killed a doctor. Goren remained in the white T and green shirt during the interrogation.
NLfann
QUOTE (DetectiveC @ Dec 31 2008, 02:44 AM) *
If you are referring to a CI episode, those pics are likely from "The Third Horseman" in Season 1. Goren went undercover in a soup kitchen to arrest an anti-abortion activist, who killed a doctor. Goren remained in the white T and green shirt during the interrogation.


Vincent/Bobby was drop dead gorgeous in those scenes. They are from "The Third Horseman". As you can see, I love those scenes so much that I use a close-up screencap of Bobby in that outfit as my avatar.
RabekaJr
QUOTE (NLfann @ Dec 31 2008, 02:08 AM) *
Vincent/Bobby was drop dead gorgeous in those scenes. They are from "The Third Horseman". As you can see, I love those scenes so much that I use a close-up screencap of Bobby in that outfit as my avatar.


Absolutely, he should wear his casual clothes more often. He looks more relaxed (like when he takes his tie off!)

From theReel:



Sorry, they're not the best quality.
krodgers
QUOTE (RabekaJr @ Dec 31 2008, 02:24 AM) *
Absolutely, he should wear his casual clothes more often. He looks more relaxed (like when he takes his tie off!)

From theReel:



Sorry, they're not the best quality.
THUD!!! tongue.gif
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