IMO, gv, I think she was.Then again, would she have been too young? She did organize all Declan's files in alphabetical order for him, to get his attention, or did she know which order they went in anyway? Good question. Makes ya want to go HHMMMM?

The real Sebastian struck 15 years earlier, she would have been a teenager. Possible, but not likely. And didn't Goren tell Ross that Sebastian left semen on his victims? Jo's victims, or at least the first one for sure, was violated with an object but there was no semen (obviously). And yes, I think 3 victims qualifies her as a serial killer. In fact, she was one of the "cases" in Declan's book on serial killers that lured Nicole Wallace to him.

I have been meaning to comment on Unsteady's comment about Declan ignoring her...even when she was in a coma, in favor of his "son" Bobby. Very sad life from beginning to end. Oh...and I'll have to watch Frame again, but I thought Declan said he didn't tell Bobby about her coma because "I know you two were close...in your own way". Implying how foolish it was for Bobby to have any feelings for this daughter who was almost invisible to him. I don't often feel much compassion for killers...but poor Jo indeed.

Vincent is a method actor, and he was very interested in doing this episode. I read an interview with Gina Gionfriddo, who wrote the episode (if I recall correctly) and she said that Vincent was enthusiastic about this storyline and enjoyed doing it. When it comes to similiar experiences, I think he had his when he was preparing to film "The Cell". That was a "dark" material.
I haven't seen Vacancy, but hope to someday.

Ohh... you got to see it..He was very Bobbyish in that one...and Eames had some great lines.....and thanks for answering my question.

I also felt for Jo...when she was confessing I was like, you Pr**k...how can someone so brilliant be so stupid, to not see his daughter as anything more then his assistant...the way she was so enthusiastic about helping him organize the crime sceen photos when she was a small child without being grossed out...(woulda been my first clue).. But he was so arrogant,and narrowminded....grrr.

He freaked me out in The Cell!

Oh no Krod, keep thinking happy thoughts.. ehm, hapy thoughts, ehm Bobby in a cool suit, Bobby in stripey pj's, Bobby in no pj's ... you get my drift!!!

I didn't say anything else, but that movie....actually..krod starts talkin; again.....I didn't know it was him until I started watching LOCI, which my hubby turned me on to! Bad move on his part, huh?

If only!




Maybe it has something to do with the changes the series made in 2006 when the picture format was changed for HDTV?

What has happened to episodes with Vincent? I miss Bobby. It seems like he's left the show. What's up?

MJ

He's right here...getting dressed to go to a party...

Krod clears throat....with me!

Just noticed something bout' this baby...its a red head....lol...conspiracy?

you wish!!! His dance card is booked up sister!!!

BTW: Bobby's only in every other epi now (to stay sort of on topic)

They're all delusional-He's been at the beach with me.

Um...honestly y'all...don't fib now...he can't have been with any of you because he's been with me all week! I've got the rug burns to prove it!

Post em' and prove it! You probably fell while vacuuming or something.....hhmmmmshe serious?

Alas ladies....He was with me the whole time...I got it on video!

Wonder if anyone knows the name of the song playing in the club at the beginning of the show."Baby, take me higher" are the lyrics.

It's called High In The Sky and the artist is Carl. Seems like there are a couple of different mixes of it out there. LoveCatMusic.com has a CD listed called "Dance Grooves V.3 - Don't Just Sit There" and the clip of the song sounds more like the version used in the episode. There's one on YouTube that's from Italo Dance Hits. Here's the link to that one:

High In The Sky-Carl - on YouTube

Edited to add: I found it on iTunes as well. Just search the song title and you can find it there.

Thanks so much! I can't get that song out of my head and it was driving me crazy that I couldn't find it!!!

Laurie

Hey girls...competition seems pretty fierce around here..we all want a piece of Bobby, huh?

Criminal intent is not quite the same without Goren. He is has such an extensive knowledge of everything you could possibly imagine and the way he examines crime scenes, with such boyish charm..and he goes on and on even while inevitably annoying Eames, as always, and seeing everyones eyes rolling (Capt. Deegan: What now?? and ADA Carver "why should I trust you?") he forges on with his insane and obscure patterns and coincidences that might otherwise go unnoticed and inevitably he is always right cuz he is so freaking smart!!

I love Goren, and I love Eames too. I love when she gets pissed at him. Its so realistic and it makes it so much more enjoyable. Shes already rolling her eyes and saying, "okay-impress me" as soon as they get to the crime scene..so funny. Plus the emotional side of his character that is shown through his relationships with Eames, the captains, the ADA, his mom ("Bobby, you never come see me"), his brother Frank, and last but not least, NICOLE WALLACE. Never has a crime show sucked me into the drama of one character so much.

To top it off, Vincent D'Onofrio is such an awesome actor, he really gets into the characters he plays...from Gomer Pyle to Pooh Bear("Salton Sea") to our beloved Detective Bobby Goren...he rocks!!

-Goren Girl 76

An oldie but a goodie.

No, I'm sorry, I don't, I'm sure someone would know. Welcome to the board virginiabrandt! Please read all the pinned topics on the 1st page at the top. Enjoy posting!

Can anyone please tell me the name of this episode and which season it was in.

Women killed in white underwear...? (I think) and they arrest a young man who it turns out is either innocent or set up by his father who is a guard or security officer in train station. The father has killed women before and has restarted killing them since his 2nd wife died. The end of the scene the man says to his son" you are no son of mine" I am sure its an episode with Carver and Deakins in.
The Goren Eames chemistry is excellent too.

Ahh that was a good episode. Its called, "Shibboleth" from season four...That is also where I learned that a man with red beard and brown hair is genetic..

I have a question...research, really, for my fanfic. I don't remember what episode it was that Deakins showed a picture of his daughters to a woman, and talked about "plucking out bad influences". How many daughters did he have? I'm thinking 3. And what ages did they appear to be in the brief flash we got? Teens? Young adults?

I think it was "The Unblinking Eye" about the actors. The girl was seeing the boy who ate the ring? I think it is 3 daughters and Deakins might have said their ages but maybe you can rewatch the episode to be sure.

Stupid question here, for my own silly benefit.

In Frame, the picture that was left at the grave, that was supposed to be of Bobby and Frank. Was that an actual picture of a young VDO morphed into frame with an actual pic of a young Tony Goldwyn? I've seen such things on other TV shows. Pictures of people when they were young, some look like actual childhood photos of celebs morphed to fit the storyline. Does anyone have a screencap of the picture in Frame?

This is the only one I ever came across..I dont know if they did that, (splice the picture) maybe its really Vincent and his brother...if he has a brother that is! lol..didnt help you at all did I?

If it's not a splice or VDO, well it sure as heck looks like it could be him!

Thanks Kayne for posting the screen cap.

Or it could be an old photo of a crew member which they gladly donated to the prop master

I dont know if its really him or a crew member but these are the youngest pic I hav eof him...he's so damn cute!





I think these are from that movie where his brother is retarded and he takes care of him...the name of it escapes me....

Wow, to be honest I nere really thought of who ws in the picture but I wouldn't think they would go to all the "effort" of getting pictures of a young VDO and Tony Goldwyn and the splicing them together. Probaly just took two pictures of two young boys with similar facial features from the catalogues of a casting agency and might have done it that way??

Kayne - these are really young pics!!! You can see the potential though?!


Cloggs

I remember seeing a pic somewhere-probably on here-of VDO as a young teen and he had very curly hair so based onlly on that I'm guessing that is not him and TG in the photo. Only a guess and not very educated at that.

Thought I'd bump this one up in case anyone has an episode questions.

The name of this movie is "Signs of Life". I've heard mixed reviews, but I actually thought it was very good and VDO was compassionate as the brother. The boy who played his brother in this movie, plays in an LOCI ep (Con TEXT, I think) and the man who plays his best friend is Gwen's father from the LOCI "Grow" (and Benny from The Mummy).

I've always thought that the fact that so many people that VDO's been in movies with have made guest appearances on LOCI (Olivia D'Abo, Colm Meaney, Theresa Russell to name a few) says a lot about what a good person VDO himself must be. (Colm Meaney also co-starred with Chris Noth in a movie called "The Bad Apple" - talk about acting ability. For anyone who's seen what an SOB Colm Meaney was in Claire Dolan. In The Bad Apple he's a completely different character - and then he plays the rat bastard judge In The Wee Small Hours...)

Could somebody please tell me the name of the episode and season where Goren goes undercover as a online dating guy to try to get a male suspect, Eames sets up a online dating profile for him and the username she gives him is big foot!! That is a funny scene!! LOL!! I think its a short scene

Sorry danicharlie-I don't remember which episode that was from.
This is not an episode question per se but I do have a question.

When did LOCI lose the doink doink? Was it before or after Carver and Deakins left or after? And also did Deakins leave before Carver. I swear I used to know these things but I haven't watched any CI lately. Between that and the medication...

I can just picture it! The one where they exchange car keys, right? Love that scene, but the title is on the tip of my tongue

Please note (we are no longer accepting letters of recommendation from Henry Kissinger)

Most people just call it Please Note.

___kerli___

The character's name was G. Lynn Bishop (played by Samantha Buck).

I always thought Eames (Erbe's) temporary replacement handled unfairly to both the character and the actress.
The writer's and producers made it very obvious that Bishop (Buck) were only "temporary." They wrote the scripts to make the character and actress simply a "placeholder" for the missing Eames (Erbe). Bishop must have been a competent detective or she wouldn't have been placed in Major Case; they made her look like she didn't know which end was up.

As for knowing how to work with Goren (VDO); a replacement can't possibly be "in sinq" with someone to the extent of a partner, Eames (Erbe) as a partner of 2-3 years. And Bishop couldn't be expected to know the history of every criminal & case Goren & Eames had handled previously.

*****

When I first joined this Board (approx. Aug, 2007), I got rather confused as I was watching new episodes of Season 6 weekly, while "catching up" on the five previous seasons during the week (out of sequence). I made notes for my own referral, so I could put things into a logical sequence.

Then I noticed that on this Board some of the same questions were being asked over and over again; so, I composed a History of LOCI that supplies a lot of behind-the-scenes details of LOCI's production that aren't explained in the aired episodes/plotlines. (i.e. changes in cast, producers, writers, show's format, etc)

You can find the most recent posting (10/19/09) on the Etiquette Thread Page 23 for answers to most of the questions you have; and maybe some you never thought to ask.

(Please note, when I edit and update this every few months, I make it a new post at the end of the Thread and delete previous versions; so several months from now it may be on a page other than Etiquette Page 23)

Yahoo! Thanks kerli. You made my nite!! (big hugs)

You're welcome.

*accepts hug*

___kerli___

I see Kerli answered this one...Please Note.



It was gone, along with Carver and Deakins, with the first episode of season 6. I miss Carver, Deakins, AND the doink doink.

Me too!

In season 6 there were 2 episodes (I believe) that dealt with Wheeler's backstory about her father. Those scenes have since been deleted. Does anyone know which episodes they are? I just purchased Untethered on Amazon and it is the unedited version (with the ring and the "splash" comment). I'm hoping that the Wheeler episodes will also be the original versions.

Can anyone help me?

I know for sure one episode is Players (season 6). I'm trying to remember others... (and improve my poor typing skills)

I'm surprised that scenes were deleted from the show period It's not the first time it's been done, When Wheeler returns from overseas, the scene where she finds Falacci's 'princess' mug is cut out.

Thanks Sara! I thought there were two episodes, but now I don't remember....maybe it was only one?




I hadn't noticed that! I loved that scene!