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gorenfan330
Let me get this straight. Tonight, Bravo is airing 4 CI eps. 3 are Logan/Barek and 1 is Goren/Eames? Are they kidding or something??

I thought the past couple of weeks have been bad enough. USA has cut the amount of CI eps they air and those that have been on are mostly Logan eps. This is really getting out of hand.

Is this NBC's version of screwing their loyal fans??
yankeesfan
No, I think I'de call it phase II of their plan to torture the CI fans.

Is Bravo playing the eps in order, casue if they are, it just might be that the Logan/Barek epppys were the next in line.
Maybe Bravo is saving the good (aka Goren/Eames) eppys for a day when the football conference champianships aren't on........just a thought.......
gorenfan330
QUOTE (yankeesfan @ Jan 21 2007, 04:18 PM) *
No, I think I'de call it phase II of their plan to torture the CI fans.

Is Bravo playing the eps in order, casue if they are, it just might be that the Logan/Barek epppys were the next in line.
Maybe Bravo is saving the good (aka Goren/Eames) eppys for a day when the football conference champianships aren't on........just a thought.......


There were never 3 new Logan eps in a row.

Tonight they're playing Slither, Watch, Wasichu and I forgot the last.
OliviaFan
Is watch a G/E one? i know slither is and isn't wasichu L/B?
gorenfan330
QUOTE (OliviaFan @ Jan 21 2007, 06:32 PM) *
Is watch a G/E one? i know slither is and isn't wasichu L/B?


If you read the original post, it said there are 4 eps tonight, 1 is a G/E ep (Slither) and the other 3 aren't!

I just checked Bravo, the last ep is Drama Giacoso.
Skeptic007
Yes, let's get the facts correct and not jump to conclusions.

Bravo is airing 4 LOCI episodes tonight--Slither and Watch are G/E, Wasichu and Dramma Giocoso are L/B. That's two episodes apiece for each detective team, NOT a conspiracy to show more Logan episodes than Goren episodes.

And the G/E episodes, not the L/W will be repeated. Again, no conspiracy favoring the Logan episodes.

Two points I want to make:
1) When USA and Bravo bought the rights to LOCI episodes, they bought them as a package, NOT just the Goren episodes, as much as some would prefer it that way. I want to see ALL LOCI episodes, not just from one team.
2) Some board members, myself included, like Logan and enjoy a lot of his episodes. Please remember that not everyone is totally only for G/E.

Thank you.
OliviaFan
Sure thing! as much as i like G/E i like L/W as well although i got to say Barek never really grew on me...
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Jan 21 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Yes, let's get the facts correct and not jump to conclusions.

Bravo is airing 4 LOCI episodes tonight--Slither and Watch are G/E, Wasichu and Dramma Giocoso are L/B. That's two episodes apiece for each detective team, NOT a conspiracy to show more Logan episodes than Goren episodes.

And the G/E episodes, not the L/W will be repeated. Again, no conspiracy favoring the Logan episodes.

Two points I want to make:
1) When USA and Bravo bought the rights to LOCI episodes, they bought them as a package, NOT just the Goren episodes, as much as some would prefer it that way. I want to see ALL LOCI episodes, not just from one team.
2) Some board members, myself included, like Logan and enjoy a lot of his episodes. Please remember that not everyone is totally only for G/E.

Thank you.


Your welcome!!

Watch is not a G/E ep!

Absolutely no one is stopping you from watching Logan/Barek/Wheeler. Just as no one will stop me from stating my displeasure!

BTW, BRAVO, NBC and USA are all owned and run by the same company.

Thanks!
Skeptic007
Fair enough. And I stand corrected about "Watch." I was in too much of a hurry to state my own displeasure at what I perceived to be an excessive anti-Logan bias. Those who like Logan are entitled to get to see his episodes too.

I still say there's no conspiracy by Bravo favoring one or the other. Next time around I'm sure there will be more G/E episodes. Everyone has preferences, but let's respect the right of those who aren't only G/E fans to get to see Logan.
Fabi
I think I need to buy some box sets...I just got done watching 2 eppys on Bravo and I feel like I loaded up on white castle sliders when I was craving a filet mignon. Not that sliders are awful...It just didnt take care of the craving.
What season does everyone like best? I think for me it would be season 3-4 except when Eams is on maternity leave. ACTUALLY, 1 and 2 are great and have more eppys. Oh, Hell..I will just get them all!
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Jan 21 2007, 07:21 PM) *
Fair enough. And I stand corrected about "Watch." I was in too much of a hurry to state my own displeasure at what I perceived to be an excessive anti-Logan bias. Those who like Logan are entitled to get to see his episodes too.

I still say there's no conspiracy by Bravo favoring one or the other. Next time around I'm sure there will be more G/E episodes. Everyone has preferences, but let's respect the right of those who aren't only G/E fans to get to see Logan.



Excuse me, but who didn't respect your rights here?
Fabi
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Jan 21 2007, 06:21 PM) *
Fair enough. And I stand corrected about "Watch." I was in too much of a hurry to state my own displeasure at what I perceived to be an excessive anti-Logan bias. Those who like Logan are entitled to get to see his episodes too.

I still say there's no conspiracy by Bravo favoring one or the other. Next time around I'm sure there will be more G/E episodes. Everyone has preferences, but let's respect the right of those who aren't only G/E fans to get to see Logan.


I dont dislike Logan..I just really like G/E. Like I posted in this thread, I just need to break down and purchase box sets so I am not left hanging when I dont get my G/E fix. I hope for the sake of CI there are plenty more Logan fans and the show continues if VDO does not renew...maybe it would be Logan and Eams?! That might be interesting.
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 21 2007, 09:17 PM) *
I think I need to buy some box sets...I just got done watching 2 eppys on Bravo and I feel like I loaded up on white castle sliders when I was craving a filet mignon. Not that sliders are awful...It just didnt take care of the craving.
What season does everyone like best? I think for me it would be season 3-4 except when Eams is on maternity leave. ACTUALLY, 1 and 2 are great and have more eppys. Oh, Hell..I will just get them all!


IMO, season 2 is the best. Best stories and best acting. I personally am a bit OCD, so I have to watch them in order. Also it's interesting to see character development when you do it that way. But, hey, whatever you get, enjoy! And please bring some discussion to the board. Us natives are apparently getting a bit restless here!
yankeesfan
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Jan 21 2007, 07:21 PM) *
Fair enough. And I stand corrected about "Watch." I was in too much of a hurry to state my own displeasure at what I perceived to be an excessive anti-Logan bias. Those who like Logan are entitled to get to see his episodes too.

I still say there's no conspiracy by Bravo favoring one or the other. Next time around I'm sure there will be more G/E episodes. Everyone has preferences, but let's respect the right of those who aren't only G/E fans to get to see Logan.

Aren't you jumping to conclusions???? How do you know that the reason this thread was started was because the "starter" didn't like Logan?
Here are some possible reasons why this thread was started-
1) gorenfan was just wondering, and wanted to fly their idea out there for everyone to critique.
2) She seriously thinks there is a consperisy.
3) She doesn't like Logan.............????????
4) She was upset and needed to vent.

I don't know......the "logan" conspiracy just doesn't make that much sense to me.

A message board is used for writing comments......and just because you don't agree with them doen't mean they shouldn't be written.
Skeptic007
The point I'm trying to make is, just because Bravo airs 3 Logan episodes doesn't mean anyone is screwing loyal fans--those are the words used in the original post. I'm also saying that there might be some members, myself included, who enjoy watching the Logan episodes and don't see any dire consequences from Bravo's schedule. There are going to be times when there are more Goren episodes on the schedule than Logan's. Eventually we all should get the opportunity to watch the episodes we prefer or enjoy more, which should be good news no matter what our preferences.
gorenfan330
There would be nothing unusual for NBC to be testing the Logan eps in the "repeat markets" to see how they are received by the viewers.

And again I ask you Choc, how are my postings preventing you from enjoying Logan eps?? Does this board have some magical link to your TV that sends out vibes when there is an anti-Logan post?? That in turn sends a signal to your brain preventing your enjoyment?? Please let me know so we can then try the same experiment on the House board and maybe all those fans will stop enjoying that show too and ratings for LOCI will possibly increase!

Boy, I didn't know I had such power!!
Fabi
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 22 2007, 08:24 PM) *
There would be nothing unusual for NBC to be testing the Logan eps in the "repeat markets" to see how they are received by the viewers.

And again I ask you Choc, how are my postings preventing you from enjoying Logan eps?? Does this board have some magical link to your TV that sends out vibes when there is an anti-Logan post?? That in turn sends a signal to your brain preventing your enjoyment?? Please let me know so we can then try the same experiment on the House board and maybe all those fans will stop enjoying that show too and ratings for LOCI will possibly increase!

Boy, I didn't know I had such power!!


Ha ha. I know you affect my every thought and action Gorenfan, that is why I cant stay away from the board....please tell me what my next move should be oh powerful one!
yankeesfan
QUOTE
And again I ask you Choc, how are my postings preventing you from enjoying Logan eps?? Does this board have some magical link to your TV that sends out vibes when there is an anti-Logan post?? That in turn sends a signal to your brain preventing your enjoyment?? Please let me know so we can then try the same experiment on the House board and maybe all those fans will stop enjoying that show too and ratings for LOCI will possibly increase!

Boy, I didn't know I had such power!!
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 22 2007, 09:58 PM) *
Ha ha. I know you affect my every thought and action Gorenfan, that is why I cant stay away from the board....please tell me what my next move should be oh powerful one!

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gorenfan330
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 22 2007, 09:58 PM) *
Ha ha. I know you affect my every thought and action Gorenfan, that is why I cant stay away from the board....please tell me what my next move should be oh powerful one!



You'll have to wait Fabi. I'm in the middle of reading Siddhartha. As soon as I'm finished, we'll move to Utah and start our commune!
sharksandwich
So I'm not the only one here who likes Logan. I was beginning to think I was. But I'm going to continue my rampage through the kitchen until I find the copy of Siddhartha, and then I'm crashing your commune. (I'm half serious, the serious part being about the rampage. Prompted by the re-run of Sound Bodies yesterday, I went looking for the book. There's a reason my family thinks I'm nuts. The book used to be on the bookshelf in the kitchen, but someone moved it. I found Demian, Steppenwolf, but Siddhartha seems to have sprouted legs and vanished)

This is getting crazy, just as crazy as the Eames vs. Goren debate. I swear I just read essentially the same argument in at least one other thread.
yankeesfan
QUOTE (sharksandwich @ Jan 23 2007, 05:55 PM) *
This is getting crazy, just as crazy as the Eames vs. Goren debate. I swear I just read essentially the same argument in at least one other thread.

On this same board?
sharksandwich
QUOTE (yankeesfan @ Jan 23 2007, 06:24 PM) *
On this same board?


It was in one of the other threads here, Chocaholic was talking about View from up Here being the worst episode ever (and I'm not even refering to the worst episode ever thread). Maybe the Privilege thread.
Fabi
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:16 AM) *
You'll have to wait Fabi. I'm in the middle of reading Siddhartha. As soon as I'm finished, we'll move to Utah and start our commune!



Can we start our commune in SF or NYC...both places have enough diversity so we can blend in.
Utah...ah..well, nevermind.
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 23 2007, 06:58 PM) *
Can we start our commune in SF or NYC...both places have enough diversity so we can blend in.
Utah...ah..well, nevermind.


Anywhere but Florida!
gorenfan330
OK. So I finally get a Goren ep. FPS, one of my least favorite plus it has Bishop in it! I can't win. 11:00 tonight is Unrequited. Now to get the toothpicks to keep my eyes open.
yankeesfan
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 23 2007, 06:59 PM) *
Anywhere but Florida!

You must live in a bad part of Florida. Florida is wonderful! Well....at least Jacksonville is.........
Skeptic007
OK, I'll try one more time to explain myself.

Gorenfan330, no one is preventing me from enjoying the Logan episodes, not you, not anyone.

What bothered me is your saying in your initial post that Bravo's showing 3 Logan episodes somehow meant NBC was screwing their loyal fans. Is that what you intended to say? Because if you did, it implies that somehow Logan fans aren't really loyal LOCI fans. What I want to avoid is an us vs. them environment, where only the Goren/Eames fans are considered the "real" LOCI fans and those who like Logan are...what?

I acknowledge I made a mistake by jumping in and posting without checking my episode facts and without clarifying what you meant. I corrected myself about "Watch" and now I'm attempting to clarify, to understand what your words in your original post meant to convey.

If I misunderstood your original post, please correct me. I interpreted your words as somehow not only being anti-Logan but also anti-Logan fans because they're somehow not "loyal" to LOCI. If that's not what you meant, then please let me know. Aren't Logan fans equally LOCI fans and equally loyal to the show as the Goren/Eames fans?

And then I'll drop the subject entirely and let it go. It's time for me to move on to something else.
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Chocaholic @ Jan 24 2007, 01:32 AM) *
OK, I'll try one more time to explain myself.

Gorenfan330, no one is preventing me from enjoying the Logan episodes, not you, not anyone.

What bothered me is your saying in your initial post that Bravo's showing 3 Logan episodes somehow meant NBC was screwing their loyal fans. Is that what you intended to say? Because if you did, it implies that somehow Logan fans aren't really loyal LOCI fans. What I want to avoid is an us vs. them environment, where only the Goren/Eames fans are considered the "real" LOCI fans and those who like Logan are...what?

I acknowledge I made a mistake by jumping in and posting without checking my episode facts and without clarifying what you meant. I corrected myself about "Watch" and now I'm attempting to clarify, to understand what your words in your original post meant to convey.

If I misunderstood your original post, please correct me. I interpreted your words as somehow not only being anti-Logan but also anti-Logan fans because they're somehow not "loyal" to LOCI. If that's not what you meant, then please let me know. Aren't Logan fans equally LOCI fans and equally loyal to the show as the Goren/Eames fans?

And then I'll drop the subject entirely and let it go. It's time for me to move on to something else.


Actually Choc, you're biggest mistake was jumping in and being so confrontational. There's so few of us on this board, the least we can be is civil to one another.

I don't question your loyalty to the show. But I guess when I refer to "loyal fans" I'm talking about the people who have watched CI from the beginning and continue to watch in large part because of VDO and KE. I'm not anti-Logan as much as I'm anti-Logan on CI. I see the 2 teams as being on 2 different shows.

Inasmuch as I wasn't being nitpicky about the 3 to 1 Bravo night, I was really just expressing my personal displeasure at turning on the TV and not seeing Goren/Eames. Bravo, which usually airs the eps in order, seemed to, for some reason, air them out of order in favor of an extra Logan ep. USA seems to have cut out some weekly airings of CI altogether and they too were airing a lot of season 5. Now intellectually, I understand that when both these networks are airing season 5, Logan eps are obviously going to show up. But emotionally, when I turn on my TV at 11 at night and look forward and expect to see Goren, I get a little frustrated. Not only is there not Goren ep, but there's not a friggin thing on tv at 11 pm.

Your last line is a bit arrogant. I would have at this moment extended the olive branch and tried not to have any conflict on this board. But the time has come for YOU to move on to something else, so see ya!!

(One of the problems with boards like this is that you can't hear someone's tone or know them well enough to really hear how something is supposed to be said. I've been misunderstood more than once. If you honestly don't mean to come off so harshly, I apologize to you. But if this is the tone you intended, please ignore my posts as I will ignore yours and we'll both be happier for it).
yankeesfan
We're all sorts of like family on this borad (I mena that in a weak sense)....and like family, we can't help but step on each other's toes once in a while. But like in Billey Joel's song, Big Shot- It's no big sin to stick your two cents in when you know when to leave it alone. Let's not be big shots. let's all try to get along.

Along the same note, I'de like to make a clean slate of things. If I ever offended anyone in any way I am very sorry, such was not my intention. sad.gif If only writing could convey tone.........

Lets make an agreement to try to all get along--I'm not saying no more arguing, because that will happen once in a while--I just mean that let's make sure everyone knows that our posts are not meant to get under anyone's skin. At least, that goes for my posts......I won't volenteer anyone for anything they don't want to do.........
If you get insulted by my posts, just remember that they were not menat to insult you. If you have a problem with something I said, then pm me and we'll take care of it in private. But no more of these public wars...they're not fun....and they are detramental (bsl!!!!!) to the chemistry of the board.
gorenfan330
QUOTE (yankeesfan @ Jan 24 2007, 11:05 PM) *
We're all sorts of like family on this borad (I mena that in a weak sense)....and like family, we can't help but step on each other's toes once in a while. But like in Billey Joel's song, Big Shot- It's no big sin to stick your two cents in when you know when to leave it alone. Let's not be big shots. let's all try to get along.

Along the same note, I'de like to make a clean slate of things. If I ever offended anyone in any way I am very sorry, such was not my intention. sad.gif If only writing could convey tone.........

Lets make an agreement to try to all get along--I'm not saying no more arguing, because that will happen once in a while--I just mean that let's make sure everyone knows that our posts are not meant to get under anyone's skin. At least, that goes for my posts......I won't volenteer anyone for anything they don't want to do.........
If you get insulted by my posts, just remember that they were not menat to insult you. If you have a problem with something I said, then pm me and we'll take care of it in private. But no more of these public wars...they're not fun....and they are detramental (bsl!!!!!) to the chemistry of the board.


You're right, YF. I can't argue with someone who quotes Billy Joel. I promise not to eat my b***h flakes anymore before posting.
yankeesfan
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 25 2007, 07:45 AM) *
You're right, YF. I can't argue with someone who quotes Billy Joel.

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Carri
I'm new here. I recently came back to watching Law & Order. I started watching the original show, and I have to say I've always enjoyed the character of Logan and I was very happy to see him back.

During the holidays I began watching Law & Order CI on Bravo and found I enjoyed watching both Goren/Eames and Logan/Barek.

There isn't anything wrong with liking one more than the other, as long as you respect everybody's right to have a favorite.
sharksandwich
Howdy, new person!
Fabi
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 25 2007, 06:45 AM) *
You're right, YF. I can't argue with someone who quotes Billy Joel. I promise not to eat my b***h flakes anymore before posting.



I can quote Ozzy Osbourne..are you impressed or SCARED!!
BTW- My supermarket does not sell B***H flakes, can I buy them online?
yankeesfan
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 25 2007, 08:00 PM) *
I can quote Ozzy Osbourne..are you impressed or SCARED!!
BTW- My supermarket does not sell B***H flakes, can I buy them online?

Ozzy Osboune? I'm scared....... unsure.gif
jk
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 25 2007, 08:00 PM) *
I can quote Ozzy Osbourne..are you impressed or SCARED!!
BTW- My supermarket does not sell B***H flakes, can I buy them online?


Impressed and scared that you understand anything he says!

My house is full of b***h flakes. I'll send some to you. You have ID that proves your age, don't you?
Fabi
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 25 2007, 08:29 PM) *
Impressed and scared that you understand anything he says!

My house is full of b***h flakes. I'll send some to you. You have ID that proves your age, don't you?



Are they gluten free?
gorenfan330
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 25 2007, 10:18 PM) *
Are they gluten free?



If you want them to be!
gorenfan330
I'm not bringing this subject up to create a war on this board, but I can't help but mention it. Tonight, BRAVO is airing 4 eps as usual. On Fire, The Good, Jones and The Extra Man.

I've watched the repeats on BRAVO for months and it has always aired eps in sequence (except when doing a marathon). Tonight, they are airing 2 eps from season 5 and 2 eps from season 1 (as of last week, they were rerunning season 1). Why the change? It's not that I have objections to a L/B ep, it's that I object to the network changing it's usual scheduling just to put a Logan ep on. Is there a hidden message here or am I just being paranoid?
yankeesfan
I'm thinking you migth be a little paranoid at this point......

But it really isn't your fault! After the treatment NBC has given us CI fans, what else do they excpect except for us to go crazy?!
easterlily07
QUOTE (gorenfan330 @ Jan 25 2007, 08:29 PM) *
Impressed and scared that you understand anything he says!

My house is full of b***h flakes. I'll send some to you. You have ID that proves your age, don't you?



Hey 'treasurer, does that mean you'll be charging her for the b***h flakes? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
easterlily07
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 21 2007, 08:17 PM) *
I think I need to buy some box sets...I just got done watching 2 eppys on Bravo and I feel like I loaded up on white castle sliders when I was craving a filet mignon. Not that sliders are awful...It just didnt take care of the craving.
What season does everyone like best? I think for me it would be season 3-4 except when Eams is on maternity leave. ACTUALLY, 1 and 2 are great and have more eppys. Oh, Hell..I will just get them all!



Hubby just bought 3rd season for me this last week! laugh.gif D**n, I am gonna have to keep that man! With each set, I say 'this is my favorite'....and each one is, but there are some episodes I like better than others. Sure is a nice way to spend the evening when hubby is out on the road. tongue.gif
bgcali22
No, gorenfan, you are not paranoid! I noticed the same thing. They definitely did that just to squeeze one in. Seriously, just keep running them in order. Not only does it take the Logan eps out of the running for awhile, but it keeps all of OCDers at ease!

On the other hand though, USA has been kind of running them in order, and it looks like once they get near the end of season 4, they go back to season 1. That's good news for us who don't appreciate the squeezing in of Logan eps!
bobbysthebest1
I'm just glad they showed Jones, it's one of my favorites. I can't stand the perp and I love how Bobby tortures him at the end. I'v seen this episode many times and I still laugh histarically during the interregation. I made a little poster for my husband, it has Goren's foot on the desk and he's asking what size shoe my husband wheres tongue.gif My husband thought it was only mildly funny.
bgcali22
QUOTE (bobbyisthebest1 @ Feb 12 2007, 02:20 PM) *
I'm just glad they showed Jones, it's one of my favorites. I can't stand the perp and I love how Bobby tortures him at the end. I'v seen this episode many times and I still laugh histarically during the interregation. I made a little poster for my husband, it has Goren's foot on the desk and he's asking what size shoe my husband wheres tongue.gif My husband thought it was only mildly funny.


I am just itching for it to come time to discuss Jones for our eppy of the week. It's one of my favorites too, I think I could talk about it for 10 pages!
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