Full Version: Missed Eppy
I missed Burned last night anyone know if it will be rebroadcast in the near future??
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 10 2007, 06:15 PM) 
I missed Burned last night anyone know if it will be rebroadcast in the near future??
check the usa schedule, they usually replay it the following week sunday night like 11pm or so
It also should be on youtube pretty soon if u want to see it there.
I doubt the entire episode will be available at YouTube since NBC wouldn't give permission to have it there. Therefore anyone's attempt to post it would be deleted shortly thereafter.
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
QUOTE (KatRose @ Jan 11 2007, 09:54 AM)
I doubt the entire episode will be available at YouTube since NBC wouldn't give permission to have it there. Therefore anyone's attempt to post it would be deleted shortly thereafter.
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
I just assumed that it would be on youtube because all the episodes from Season 8 are still up on youtube and haven't been deleted yet, and I've watched them, they're the full episodes. But i don't know if Burned is up yet.
QUOTE (KatRose @ Jan 11 2007, 09:54 AM)
I doubt the entire episode will be available at YouTube since NBC wouldn't give permission to have it there. Therefore anyone's attempt to post it would be deleted shortly thereafter.
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
It would be smarter to check iTunes if you want to download it or the USA schedule (it usually airs on the second Sunday after it's original airdate).
What if you do not have itunes? Does that mean that you are left out in the cold because you cannot afford to pay for it. Youtube, IMO, is not doing anything illegal. They are not charging anyone to watch the episodes and they are not selling it to anyone. All the users on youtube are doing is making the episodes available to those who had to work, go to school, take care of their kids, or were commited to doing other things and were unable to view the episode other wise. Sometimes people do not have the means or the capability to watch every single episode when it comes on. I just do not understand why downloading episodes on youtube is illegal but recording them on a VCR or DVR is not. The only difference I see is that youtube can be viewed by many people and DVR or VCR is for you. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I just bought it on itunes and watched it. What an awesome eppy!! I teared up when they were outside of the burn unit.
Why dont you guys like Kathy?? I felt sorry for her, maybe I relate to her since I am a wife and mom.
Why dont you guys like Kathy?? I felt sorry for her, maybe I relate to her since I am a wife and mom.
I hate to break it to you there, but downloading it on VCR/DVR is actually in violation of copyright laws. I'm not sure on the specifics, but it is.
QUOTE (Mary82 @ Jan 13 2007, 04:19 PM)
Youtube, IMO, is not doing anything illegal. They are not charging anyone to watch the episodes and they are not selling it to anyone.
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, it IS illegal to upload or share copyrighted material in a manner not expressly permitted by the copyright holder (i.e. NBC in this discussion). Think about it this way, if you were broken and didn't have a VCR to record off the network and the only way for you to get the show was to walk into a video store and take a copy off their shelves, would it be okay for you to do so? I'd dare say you would agree that's theft and something that could get you in serious legal trouble. Downloading from unauthorized sites is exactly the same, no matter what you or others who do it think.
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I hate to break it to you there, but downloading it on VCR/DVR is actually in violation of copyright laws. I'm not sure on the specifics, but it is.
Actually, that's incorrect. Back in the early 80s the high courts made a decision called the "Sony Betamax" decision that continues to affect us today. The ruling basically said that hardware providers (i.e. the makers of videocassette recorders) couldn't be held liable for copyright violations because the basic concept of the VCR was to "time shift" shows from their original air time to whatever was convenient for the individual viewer. The courts ruled that the "free use" clause of the copyright laws allowed for an individual to make one copy of copyrighted material for their own personal use. This allowed for people to tape M*A*S*H and other shows of that time without fear that the government was going to bust down their doors and arrest them for theft.
However, the law also clarified that you couldn't make copies of that tape and give it to anyone else for their enjoyment without infringing on the rights of the copyright holder. This is the gray area that many, if not most, of us have lived in for years. For example, if you recorded SVU off the network and mailed the videocassette to your mother in NYC, then you were technically violating the copyright of NBC. However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable.
I know copyright laws aren't always popular, but remember that if you were personally involved in something that warranted copyright protection, would you want millions of people to steal it without your permission or paying you for it?
QUOTE (KatRose @ Jan 15 2007, 08:13 PM)
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, it IS illegal to upload or share copyrighted material in a manner not expressly permitted by the copyright holder (i.e. NBC in this discussion). Think about it this way, if you were broken and didn't have a VCR to record off the network and the only way for you to get the show was to walk into a video store and take a copy off their shelves, would it be okay for you to do so? I'd dare say you would agree that's theft and something that could get you in serious legal trouble. Downloading from unauthorized sites is exactly the same, no matter what you or others who do it think.
Actually, that's incorrect. Back in the early 80s the high courts made a decision called the "Sony Betamax" decision that continues to affect us today. The ruling basically said that hardware providers (i.e. the makers of videocassette recorders) couldn't be held liable for copyright violations because the basic concept of the VCR was to "time shift" shows from their original air time to whatever was convenient for the individual viewer. The courts ruled that the "free use" clause of the copyright laws allowed for an individual to make one copy of copyrighted material for their own personal use. This allowed for people to tape M*A*S*H and other shows of that time without fear that the government was going to bust down their doors and arrest them for theft.
However, the law also clarified that you couldn't make copies of that tape and give it to anyone else for their enjoyment without infringing on the rights of the copyright holder. This is the gray area that many, if not most, of us have lived in for years. For example, if you recorded SVU off the network and mailed the videocassette to your mother in NYC, then you were technically violating the copyright of NBC. However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable.
Actually, that's incorrect. Back in the early 80s the high courts made a decision called the "Sony Betamax" decision that continues to affect us today. The ruling basically said that hardware providers (i.e. the makers of videocassette recorders) couldn't be held liable for copyright violations because the basic concept of the VCR was to "time shift" shows from their original air time to whatever was convenient for the individual viewer. The courts ruled that the "free use" clause of the copyright laws allowed for an individual to make one copy of copyrighted material for their own personal use. This allowed for people to tape M*A*S*H and other shows of that time without fear that the government was going to bust down their doors and arrest them for theft.
However, the law also clarified that you couldn't make copies of that tape and give it to anyone else for their enjoyment without infringing on the rights of the copyright holder. This is the gray area that many, if not most, of us have lived in for years. For example, if you recorded SVU off the network and mailed the videocassette to your mother in NYC, then you were technically violating the copyright of NBC. However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable.
i tape SVU for my enjoyment on days when its not on i watch it. sometimes my friends mom doesnt let her watch it, so i hand her the tape at school. is that illegal??
QUOTE (svuswimmer @ Jan 15 2007, 07:58 PM)
i tape SVU for my enjoyment on days when its not on i watch it. sometimes my friends mom doesnt let her watch it, so i hand her the tape at school. is that illegal??
Her mom might give you and her a "time out" for breaking rules....LOL
QUOTE (Fabi @ Jan 15 2007, 09:12 PM)
Her mom might give you and her a "time out" for breaking rules....LOL
lol. so it is illegal?? KatRose:"However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable."
QUOTE (KatRose @ Jan 15 2007, 08:13 PM)
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, it IS illegal to upload or share copyrighted material in a manner not expressly permitted by the copyright holder (i.e. NBC in this discussion). Think about it this way, if you were broken and didn't have a VCR to record off the network and the only way for you to get the show was to walk into a video store and take a copy off their shelves, would it be okay for you to do so? I'd dare say you would agree that's theft and something that could get you in serious legal trouble. Downloading from unauthorized sites is exactly the same, no matter what you or others who do it think.
Actually, that's incorrect. Back in the early 80s the high courts made a decision called the "Sony Betamax" decision that continues to affect us today. The ruling basically said that hardware providers (i.e. the makers of videocassette recorders) couldn't be held liable for copyright violations because the basic concept of the VCR was to "time shift" shows from their original air time to whatever was convenient for the individual viewer. The courts ruled that the "free use" clause of the copyright laws allowed for an individual to make one copy of copyrighted material for their own personal use. This allowed for people to tape M*A*S*H and other shows of that time without fear that the government was going to bust down their doors and arrest them for theft.
However, the law also clarified that you couldn't make copies of that tape and give it to anyone else for their enjoyment without infringing on the rights of the copyright holder. This is the gray area that many, if not most, of us have lived in for years. For example, if you recorded SVU off the network and mailed the videocassette to your mother in NYC, then you were technically violating the copyright of NBC. However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable.
I know copyright laws aren't always popular, but remember that if you were personally involved in something that warranted copyright protection, would you want millions of people to steal it without your permission or paying you for it?
Actually, that's incorrect. Back in the early 80s the high courts made a decision called the "Sony Betamax" decision that continues to affect us today. The ruling basically said that hardware providers (i.e. the makers of videocassette recorders) couldn't be held liable for copyright violations because the basic concept of the VCR was to "time shift" shows from their original air time to whatever was convenient for the individual viewer. The courts ruled that the "free use" clause of the copyright laws allowed for an individual to make one copy of copyrighted material for their own personal use. This allowed for people to tape M*A*S*H and other shows of that time without fear that the government was going to bust down their doors and arrest them for theft.
However, the law also clarified that you couldn't make copies of that tape and give it to anyone else for their enjoyment without infringing on the rights of the copyright holder. This is the gray area that many, if not most, of us have lived in for years. For example, if you recorded SVU off the network and mailed the videocassette to your mother in NYC, then you were technically violating the copyright of NBC. However, if you were to make a copy and hand it to her when she came to visit, that would be acceptable.
I know copyright laws aren't always popular, but remember that if you were personally involved in something that warranted copyright protection, would you want millions of people to steal it without your permission or paying you for it?
O.K. so let em get this straight. It is o.k. to record episodes on DVR or VCR and allow anyone near you to see them, but it is illegal to put it on youtube for everyone to see. How is there a difference? Also, of cource i belive theft is wrong. I just do not understand how youtube putting up episodes is illegal when recording it on VCR or DVR is not. It doesn't make any sense to me. I did not intent to start a brawl over the subject. I was simply upset that they were taken off and I was confused. I did not mean to make anyone upset. Sorry if I did. I just want to understand the difference.
The difference is that with a physical tape or disk, you are only sharing it with that person. With YouTube and other downloading programs/sites, you are sharing with millions. Huge difference. And, as I said before, regardless of what you think about the law, it doesn't mean you can ignore it. 
QUOTE (KatRose @ Jan 16 2007, 01:24 AM)
The difference is that with a physical tape or disk, you are only sharing it with that person. With YouTube and other downloading programs/sites, you are sharing with millions. Huge difference. And, as I said before, regardless of what you think about the law, it doesn't mean you can ignore it.
wow o.k. I will drop it. Thanks for the information.
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