willhedoit12
Aug 28 2005, 09:01 PM
1. Isabel all grown up - OMG
2. Jordan alive - OMG
3. Richard has Telekinises - OMG, HELL YEAH!!!
decypher44
Aug 28 2005, 09:02 PM
Holy crap! Holy crap! HOLY CRAP!!!!!
Pandora
Aug 28 2005, 09:03 PM
Wow quite the ending. I wonder if Shawn and Isabelle are the next couple?
danegerous19
Aug 28 2005, 09:03 PM
yes wtf is goin on, now we just have to wait for a season 3, i wish this show was a regualar show that shows from sept-may instead of may-sept, its insane, the future has some explaining to do
NTAC
Aug 28 2005, 09:03 PM
Doc giving himself the Promicin!
Kyle turning himself in!
Marco and Diana!
halofreak345
Aug 28 2005, 09:04 PM
A NEW 4400!!! It showed the spot where they all came back, and a new guy, a new guy from the future. I am sure I know who it is ttoo, he is the one who killed Collier.
olandir
Aug 28 2005, 09:04 PM
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yes wtf is goin on, now we just have to wait for a season 3, i wish this show was a regualar show that shows from sept-may instead of may-sept, its insane, the future has some explaining to do
You've got some 'splainin to do Lucy!
LauraAllenFan
Aug 28 2005, 09:05 PM
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A NEW 4400!!! It showed the spot where they all came back, and a new guy, a new guy from the future. I am sure I know who it is ttoo, he is the one who killed Collier.
He was Collier...
halofreak345
Aug 28 2005, 09:06 PM
what!? you are sure of it?
dynever
Aug 28 2005, 09:07 PM
It was definately Collier.
acowkickedme
Aug 28 2005, 09:09 PM
Ok, so Collier was the Tom Hanks-esque character at the end. That was a hell of a cliffhanger... again...
1-What is the war? The world vs the 4400?
2-Where was Collier? The future, the present, a completely different planet??
3-Isabel--Grown up?
Well, I'm not gonna sleep tonite. lol.
~cow
unicorngoddess
Aug 28 2005, 09:09 PM
The guy at the end was Jordan.
I can't figure out for the life of me why on earth Isabelle has grown into an adult.
I really hope the show starts back up in the winter instead of waiting all the way until next summer. Waiting will be torture.
ShawnFan
Aug 28 2005, 09:12 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!
Now THAT will get people coming back to this show!! WOW!
Izzy WAS actually someone else...or rather there seems to have been someone inside Izzy. Somenone none too nice, either. Way to torture your own mom, giving her those horrid and terrifying visions, just in order to get her to go back?? Are we seriously supposed to believe that was the ONLY way she could have accomplished that? Whether it was for the greater good or not, Izzy's methods leave a lot to be desired.
Shawn took that someone out of Kyle - at first, when he called kyle back, I was afraid that he was gonna kill him, and it lookedlike he might - then bam! That big ball of energy. Anyone think that maybe it went inside of Shawn??
Marco and Diana?? Nah, she'll come to. She's feeling really greatful, but their gonna just be friends I bet.
And YEAH, baby! Richard gets his gift!
This was one of the very best eps of ANY show I have ever seen. I can't wait to watch it again, and absorb more.
CbALL
Aug 28 2005, 09:14 PM
I have to agree, that was a great ending. I really can't wait until next season. I made a freaking account just to rave about this too, but that was amazing.
Jordan seems to be sporting the Jesus look, which I wouldn't want any other way. Can't wait for him to come back, and maybe Kyle will get out of prison because of this.
I thought Isabelle grown up was a bit odd. It was very interesting, but if she hooks up with Shawn, it would be kind of awkward.
At first... When Shawn(or Sean?) removed the orb from Kyle, which is what would have been controlling him I was thinking "What if he is actually killing Kyle, and letting the thing that controls him kick into full time" because of Kyle not speaking until he got back home. I thought it was odd.
When I first started watching, I really didn't like Marco, but he has kind of grown on me. Maybe because I think Diana is hot, and Marco is a nerd, but now I can see that they really are made for each other.
This is probably my first real show I have been into like this. I never ever got into X-Files or any of those other popular series. But when I was watching Law and Order before the summer, the whole "The Emmy Nominated The 4400" really got me interesting.
And the best part about the show, was that I didn't have to watch it last summer to know what happened, or know the characters, as I jumped into the show this summer and really knew most of the characters. But that is probably because each character is so well developed, and they do a good job at the beginning of each episode to tell you what happened last time.
Any how... That ending was amazing. Really left you feel satisfied, but still dying to know more. The creators of this show are genius. I really hope it gets an Emmy, it would be a crime for this show not to get one.
sykofam
Aug 28 2005, 09:15 PM
We have to be able to do something to persuade the big wigs at USA to keep this show from being ONLY a summer show. I'm gonna go crazy if I have to wait nine months to find out what's going on....
tdasher
Aug 28 2005, 09:16 PM
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1. Isabel all grown up - OMG
2. Jordan alive - OMG
3. Richard has Telekinises - OMG, HELL YEAH!!!
willhedoit12 - So, glad that you posted. I thought that I heard wrong when she said that she was Isabel. LOL
What an ending!! The whole show was great but the ending was........OMG OMG!! LOL
Evilwonderwoman
Aug 28 2005, 09:17 PM
Maybe Isabel's methods were a bit drastic, but sometimes "fear" is the best motivator.
havenli22
Aug 28 2005, 09:20 PM
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Ok, so Collier was the Tom Hanks-esque character at the end. That was a hell of a cliffhanger... again...
1-What is the war? The world vs the 4400?
2-Where was Collier? The future, the present, a completely different planet??
3-Isabel--Grown up?
Well, I'm not gonna sleep tonite. lol.
~cow
I think Collier was at Highland Beach, where all the 4400 were first dropped off in the ball of light.
awkfan
Aug 28 2005, 09:20 PM
What the heck have Richard and Lily been feeding that baby?
That ending was the most intensely plotted five minutes of television I've ever seen.
olandir
Aug 28 2005, 09:20 PM
What if Jordon doesn't remember who he is?? Random thought...
CbALL
Aug 28 2005, 09:21 PM
I personally thought Isabelle's method of getting Lily back to Richard was genius. I don't think she would have gone any other way. Lily really is a docile person, and Isabelle knew that would be the only way to get her Lily and her back.
unicorngoddess
Aug 28 2005, 09:21 PM
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At first... When Shawn(or Sean?) removed the orb from Kyle, which is what would have been controlling him I was thinking "What if he is actually killing Kyle, and letting the thing that controls him kick into full time" because of Kyle not speaking until he got back home. I thought it was odd.
I still think there's gonna end up being some kind of bad side effect to that. what if the thing inside kyle planned that confession to sean knowing that he would try to "heal" him. That was a pretty big explosion and it makes me think there's something more there.
drdre74
Aug 28 2005, 09:22 PM
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Doc giving himself the Promicin!
Kyle turning himself in!
Marco and Diana!
looks like the doc is turning himself into a 4400! I think he lied about just having enough for one shot! i think he kept some of Isabelles blood and made some for himself to be a 4400!
ShawnFan
Aug 28 2005, 09:23 PM
Hey there -
While that may be, (fear being a big motivator), it seems like that's what she always reaches for first. This gives a bit more weight to the evil Izzy argument. With her capabilities, she could have been kinder, not so hurtful and more clear about it - didn't have to wig mom like that.
And since she is now all grown...did that 'thing' inside Kyle go into Izzy?? Or was that really Izzy all along? Or, was that full-grown woman INSIDE Izzy somehow triggered by that energy ball/other entity inside Kyle??
Oh! This is going to be a very long winter if we have to wait 'til next summer for S3!!
That was an AWESOME ep!!!
JerryJerr
Aug 28 2005, 09:23 PM
The last few minutes of the show was AWESOME!
Definitely the best episode yet by far.
I don't see how Kyle can be held responsible for JC's murder if he was being controlled by whatever forces were inside of him. No way will Kyle go to prison. Besides I suspect right before Kyle is found guilty in a trial, JC will show up again at he center.
The most shocking thing at the end was Isabell standing there all grown up. Isabell is the one with all of the powers. It looks like she and Sean are going to make one dynamic duo in the 3rd season.
What will happen to the 4400 center when JC makes his way back?
It looks like a war is going to break out between the 4400 and those who want to take them down. It should be no contest with all of the powers they have.
And last but not least, I guess Richard has finally found his extra powers also.
I LOVE THIS SHOW. I hope they bring it back before next summer.
halofreak345
Aug 28 2005, 09:24 PM
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Doc giving himself the Promicin!
Kyle turning himself in!
Marco and Diana!
looks like the doc is turning himself into a 4400! I think he lied about just having enough for one shot! i think he kept some of Isabelles blood and made some for himself to be a 4400!
Why not? I would, lol
Evilwonderwoman
Aug 28 2005, 09:25 PM
He kinda was an honorary 4400 anyway....and he did save their lives.
deacondarlin
Aug 28 2005, 09:26 PM
Kyle could still go to jail...even if Jordan didn't die, it was attempted murder.
Tristen
Aug 28 2005, 09:27 PM
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I have to agree, that was a great ending. I really can't wait until next season. I made a freaking account just to rave about this too, but that was amazing.
Jordan seems to be sporting the Jesus look, which I wouldn't want any other way. Can't wait for him to come back, and maybe Kyle will get out of prison because of this.
I thought Isabelle grown up was a bit odd. It was very interesting, but if she hooks up with Shawn, it would be kind of awkward.
At first... When Shawn(or Sean?) removed the orb from Kyle, which is what would have been controlling him I was thinking "What if he is actually killing Kyle, and letting the thing that controls him kick into full time" because of Kyle not speaking until he got back home. I thought it was odd.
When I first started watching, I really didn't like Marco, but he has kind of grown on me. Maybe because I think Diana is hot, and Marco is a nerd, but now I can see that they really are made for each other.
This is probably my first real show I have been into like this. I never ever got into X-Files or any of those other popular series. But when I was watching Law and Order before the summer, the whole "The Emmy Nominated The 4400" really got me interesting.
And the best part about the show, was that I didn't have to watch it last summer to know what happened, or know the characters, as I jumped into the show this summer and really knew most of the characters. But that is probably because each character is so well developed, and they do a good job at the beginning of each episode to tell you what happened last time.
Any how... That ending was amazing. Really left you feel satisfied, but still dying to know more. The creators of this show are genius. I really hope it gets an Emmy, it would be a crime for this show not to get one.
I concur with everything you just said.
This is the only show I've ever watched EVERY episode. I literally tell all my friends to [censored] off on Sundays cuz I gots ta watch my show! That was definitely Jordan at the end and yes, he looks like Jesus. He looked like he knew what was going on but I'm sure they'll bring him back w/o any recollection of what happened. And the Isabelle thing...Im not gonna even try to comprehend that. Im baffled.
Ahhhh damn you USA!
4401returnee
Aug 28 2005, 09:36 PM
Awsome episode, written by the almighty Ira Steven Behr. I hope next season he get more actors from Star Trek Deep Space Nine to appear on the show. Just having Jeffrey Combs as a guests just isn't enough. Maybe they can get the whole Deep Space Nine cast to do an appearance all together being one of the 4400. Have them sharing a home together or something.
As for what happened at the final minute of the show was simply brilliant. I hope this doesn't turn into X-MEN. Come on, people with special powers againt a world that fears them ? If that doesn't scream X-MEN rip-off I don't know that is. Although it was cool seeing Richard doing that Jean Grey thing with the cup. Is it me or does anyone think that USA should up the order of episodes from 13 to 20 or even 26. This is a great Sci-fi show, maybe better than Battlestar Galactica. I find that show a little bit depressing to what.
LeadingLady
Aug 28 2005, 09:40 PM
LOL! I just got back I can't wait to see the finale at midnight, it sounds good! LOL!
Evilwonderwoman
Aug 28 2005, 09:43 PM
Unless Kyle has false memories that arn't even his.
4401returnee
Aug 28 2005, 09:47 PM
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I have to agree, that was a great ending. I really can't wait until next season. I made a freaking account just to rave about this too, but that was amazing.
Jordan seems to be sporting the Jesus look, which I wouldn't want any other way. Can't wait for him to come back, and maybe Kyle will get out of prison because of this.
I thought Isabelle grown up was a bit odd. It was very interesting, but if she hooks up with Shawn, it would be kind of awkward.
At first... When Shawn(or Sean?) removed the orb from Kyle, which is what would have been controlling him I was thinking "What if he is actually killing Kyle, and letting the thing that controls him kick into full time" because of Kyle not speaking until he got back home. I thought it was odd.
When I first started watching, I really didn't like Marco, but he has kind of grown on me. Maybe because I think Diana is hot, and Marco is a nerd, but now I can see that they really are made for each other.
This is probably my first real show I have been into like this. I never ever got into X-Files or any of those other popular series. But when I was watching Law and Order before the summer, the whole "The Emmy Nominated The 4400" really got me interesting.
And the best part about the show, was that I didn't have to watch it last summer to know what happened, or know the characters, as I jumped into the show this summer and really knew most of the characters. But that is probably because each character is so well developed, and they do a good job at the beginning of each episode to tell you what happened last time.
Any how... That ending was amazing. Really left you feel satisfied, but still dying to know more. The creators of this show are genius. I really hope it gets an Emmy, it would be a crime for this show not to get one.
I concur with everything you just said.
This is the only show I've ever watched EVERY episode. I literally tell all my friends to [censored] off on Sundays cuz I gots ta watch my show! That was definitely Jordan at the end and yes, he looks like Jesus. He looked like he knew what was going on but I'm sure they'll bring him back w/o any recollection of what happened. And the Isabelle thing...Im not gonna even try to comprehend that. Im baffled.
Ahhhh damn you USA!
Sorry to disappoint you folks but Billy Campbell sporting a beard may be due to a fact that he is on a boat riding trip for a year or so since he left the show from the last episode he was in. I was listening to a Ira Steven Berh interview at www.thefandom.com and he said that Billy Campbell said he was going to leave the show for a sailing boat trip. His last minute appearance was probably a favor act for the show. Maybe the producers did not thought that it would be odd to not shave the beard before they tapes it or maybe Billy Campbell won't let them. So let the conspiracy theories begin.
arlie
Aug 28 2005, 09:54 PM
I also made an account just to be able to talk about this show! My husband doesn't watch with me and I was dying to rave about it! That was abosolutely the best ending to any show I have ever seen. I sure do hope they don't wait until next summer to start again. Maybe there is a feedback link to USA or a contact email and everybody could write and beg them to please make it a regular show and not just a summer thing.
I wondered if Sean has the thing that was in Kyle now. Cause where would it go? I was so tickled about Richard finally getting his ability. Way Cool!!!!!!!
The Isabelle thing is weird and I can't wait to see how Lily and Richard react to their daughter all grown up in the blink of an eye!
The waiting is gonna be torture.
madWizard
Aug 28 2005, 09:56 PM
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Jordan seems to be sporting the Jesus look, which I wouldn't want any other way. Can't wait for him to come back, and maybe Kyle will get out of prison because of this.
Just remember... there were the 2 agents that were shot also. Collier, alone, will not be able to make it all go away.
Grenex
Aug 28 2005, 10:01 PM
Check out the discussion on Jordan! Some interesting theories!
http://mboard.usanetwork.com/showflat.ph...p;vc=1&nt=2
madWizard
Aug 28 2005, 10:04 PM
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Doc giving himself the Promicin!
looks like the doc is turning himself into a 4400! I think he lied about just having enough for one shot! i think he kept some of Isabelles blood and made some for himself to be a 4400!
Why not? I would, lol
Just remember... the 4400 PRODUCE the chemical, he would have to keep injecting it. Perhaps a "temp" 4400.
October
Aug 28 2005, 10:12 PM
Maybe Izzy passed on her powers to her father. I think she made herself older because there was something she had to tell them that she couldn't as a baby.
SwiftWolf
Aug 28 2005, 10:23 PM
Haven't read everyone's post so i hope i don't steal this from someone, but my theory is that Izzabelle knew that she was needed back with Richard and Doc. She did the horrible things to Lily cause she knew it was the only way. Izzy seemed pretty happy to see Doc.
Now with Collier, i don't think the real one ever met shawn. I think the one we saw at the end was the real collier and he's finally been released. Maybe he was the ball of the light released from Kyle. It could also explain what Jordan saw when he touched Izzy. When he said "she lied to me", izzy may have known it was a fake collier and she let the murder happen to release the real one.
I agree with the idea that richard has found his power.
But i don't understand how Izzy could have grown up like that.
And i am pissed that it was Ryland who hurt the 4400. He was one of my favorite characters.
Btw does anyone notice that the 4400 are dying. it seems like everytime they focus and episode on one, they die. And there were 23 that died in this episode alone. I wonder if as the series continues, more and more 4400 die.
pinkflwer84
Aug 28 2005, 10:30 PM
don't forget maia's prediction
SwiftWolf
Aug 28 2005, 10:32 PM
Ah yes. Maia predicted there will be a war. But Izzabelle predicted that Collier will be honored. Maybe the 4400 won that war
Xexx
Aug 28 2005, 10:32 PM
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Any how... That ending was amazing. Really left you feel satisfied, but still dying to know more. The creators of this show are genius. I really hope it gets an Emmy, it would be a crime for this show not to get one.
I agree completely, I was really glad it wasn't like all the other shows that abruptly cut off the endings and call it a cliff hanger, it leaves you satisfied at the end and not thinking that you've been cheated, yet still REALLY wanting to watch the next season.
gNito
Aug 28 2005, 10:44 PM
All I know for sure is that last year I got sucked into a mini-series and was really ticked off the way it ended. Mainly because at the time I thought it had ended! Now I just finished getting sucked into another full season of the show and I can't believe I will have to wait until next JUNE to see more!
SwiftWolf
Aug 28 2005, 10:53 PM
Probably May not June, but by that time you'll get sucked into another show. I kept seeing these stupid promotional clips for season 2 with everyone in an interrogation room. USA had a marathon of season one because that night was the premiere of season 2. I watched it all and was amazed. Although you can tell it was only supposed to be a mini-series because of certain eps like the one with Carl Morrisey (guy who liked to clean the park). It was just a stand alone episode. there was something about season one that just wasn't great. season 2 was so much better.
Elli
Aug 28 2005, 11:38 PM
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I also made an account just to be able to talk about this show! My husband doesn't watch with me and I was dying to rave about it! That was abosolutely the best ending to any show I have ever seen. I sure do hope they don't wait until next summer to start again. Maybe there is a feedback link to USA or a contact email and everybody could write and beg them to please make it a regular show and not just a summer thing.
I wondered if Sean has the thing that was in Kyle now. Cause where would it go? I was so tickled about Richard finally getting his ability. Way Cool!!!!!!!
The Isabelle thing is weird and I can't wait to see how Lily and Richard react to their daughter all grown up in the blink of an eye!
The waiting is gonna be torture.
I too made this account for the same reason. My husband doesn't watch it either. So I have no one to rave to about it! This show is awesome, and I can't stand that I have to wait to watch what happens next. This finale was amazing! The last few minutes were so full of answers, suspense, and new questions. Definitely awesome writing and acting! I hope they make more episodes and start the season sooner... I don't know if I could stand waiting until next summer!
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