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redactress

Nov 8 2006, 06:57 PM

I think they should have a sequence where they have a flasjback on how Natalie & Mitch were!!!

innardamok

Nov 8 2006, 08:35 PM

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I think they should have a sequence where they have a flasjback on how Natalie & Mitch were!!!

I agree, red! Adrian has flashbacks, so why not Natalie? It might make for an interesting sub-plot!

Bubba_Bridges

Nov 8 2006, 08:40 PM

Hi Bubba here, I'm with all on this.

alex455

Nov 9 2006, 12:57 AM

And I! Flashbacks are very interresting! May be Monk could solve Natalies case, 'cause she still don't know what really happend to her husband. If he was a hero or not? She says that there are files somewhere...may be Monk could found it out what really happend. What do you thinkin'?

redactress

Nov 9 2006, 11:45 AM

I like that! Monk also solving what happened to Mitch!

Maybe it could start with Natalie being really depressed because its Valentine's day & she's missing him real bad!!

Something like that!!!

alex455

Nov 9 2006, 12:19 PM

Valentine's day! I think it's the only one holiday that doesn't have his episode...and Monk have a birthday! I courious what he would get!

redactress

Nov 9 2006, 04:55 PM

a Rock Polishing kit?

Raven

Nov 10 2006, 08:53 AM

Two really neat ideas! Some flashbacks of Natalie and Mitch, and a birthday party for Adrian! I bet he'd get lots of cleaning supplies, but he should get a fun gift too. A rock polishing kit is perfect!

redactress

Nov 10 2006, 12:28 PM

At his BD party, he would probably hide out in the kitchen-I beleived he called the game "Are They Gone?"

kees_lady

Nov 10 2006, 12:43 PM

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Two really neat ideas! Some flashbacks of Natalie and Mitch, and a birthday party for Adrian! I bet he'd get lots of cleaning supplies, but he should get a fun gift too. A rock polishing kit is perfect!

A flashback of Natalie when pregnant with Julie and Mitchs' reaction to the addition to the family. Was he at the birth or was he in the service and away on duty?

iguanamiaman

Nov 10 2006, 11:07 PM

I'd rather not see development of a character that we don't need to know about. He doesn't add anything to the show, we see Trudy because she is critical to the story line of Monk but to start reaching out to dead relatives of characters is pathetic.

elfa1

Nov 10 2006, 11:27 PM

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I'd rather not see development of a character that we don't need to know about. He doesn't add anything to the show, we see Trudy because she is critical to the story line of Monk but to start reaching out to dead relatives of characters is pathetic.

Natalie's husband is not going to add anything to the show except yet another sentimental storyline. It would be getting more and more off the track from the original Monk by being twisted into sentimental fantasies or desperate attempts at comedy.

kees_lady

Nov 11 2006, 12:30 AM

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I'd rather not see development of a character that we don't need to know about. He doesn't add anything to the show, we see Trudy because she is critical to the story line of Monk but to start reaching out to dead relatives of characters is pathetic.

Natalie's husband is not going to add anything to the show except yet another sentimental storyline. It would be getting more and more off the track from the original Monk by being twisted into sentimental fantasies or desperate attempts at comedy.

And, what may I ask, was all the BS about Trevor being such a jerk, not sending his child support, forgetting Benjy's birthday, so-on-and-so-forth, if not some type of sentimental gobble-de-gook into Sharona's pass? Did we need to know all this about Trevor? Ya, probably about as much as we need/want to know more about Mitch!

iguanamiaman

Nov 11 2006, 09:35 AM

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And, what may I ask, was all the BS about Trevor being such a jerk, not sending his child support, forgetting Benjy's birthday, so-on-and-so-forth, if not some type of sentimental gobble-de-gook into Sharona's pass? Did we need to know all this about Trevor? Ya, probably about as much as we need/want to know more about Mitch!

I never cared for that much either, however he was at least an "alive" character who could enter the picture. Mitch can't. They aren't going to use a dead husband for comedic value. They didn't really use Trevor a whole lot anyway except for when the thought they were going back to Jersey but surprise its Detroit and then when Fat Tony got a check for child support. At this point, Monk needs to avoid overly sentimental crap and bring itself back to its comedic high or more newbies who were responsible for the latest ratings will jump ship.

ClippoPuppet

Nov 11 2006, 11:13 AM

Again, I disagree totally. If you want straight comedy, watch a sit-com. Monk isn't that type of show. For one, it's very character based. Monk is likeable as a character because we see his serious side as well as his funny side. If we only saw the comedy, we would be prone to laughing at his condition not at the funny things his condition causes him to say or do. OCD is a very sensitive subject, and the moments of pathos assist in keeping the tone of the show from becomming one of laughing at people with this particular affliction. We're not laughing AT Monk because we like him, and we like him because we understand him. We understand him because we've seen him under both comic and tragic circumstances. Those moments of pathos round out the character and make him real.

I really believe that the development of the characters (all the characters) is key to Monk not becoming just another sitcom. We learn about the characters' past through dialogue and flashbacks, and how other characters interacted with them (even other characters whom we know to be dead) tell us much about why the characters are the way they are today. Mitch is an important part of Natalie's past, and therefore an important part of her present as a character. I think it would be interesting to see her relationship with him. And her relationship with Mitch is key to her current relationship with Adrian. Without a past, characters are two-dimensional entities. Monk stands out from other shows because the characters AREN'T two-dimensional - they're well-rounded and well developed. It's one of the things I like most about the show.

alex455

Nov 11 2006, 12:44 PM

I agree with you. Word to word! You really great say about Mitch Natalie and Adrian...

elfa1

Nov 11 2006, 01:03 PM

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Again, I disagree totally. If you want straight comedy, watch a sit-com. Monk isn't that type of show. For one, it's very character based. Monk is likeable as a character because we see his serious side as well as his funny side. If we only saw the comedy, we would be prone to laughing at his condition not at the funny things his condition causes him to say or do. OCD is a very sensitive subject, and the moments of pathos assist in keeping the tone of the show from becomming one of laughing at people with this particular affliction. We're not laughing AT Monk because we like him, and we like him because we understand him. We understand him because we've seen him under both comic and tragic circumstances. Those moments of pathos round out the character and make him real.

I really believe that the development of the characters (all the characters) is key to Monk not becoming just another sitcom. We learn about the characters' past through dialogue and flashbacks, and how other characters interacted with them (even other characters whom we know to be dead) tell us much about why the characters are the way they are today. Mitch is an important part of Natalie's past, and therefore an important part of her present as a character. I think it would be interesting to see her relationship with him. And her relationship with Mitch is key to her current relationship with Adrian. Without a past, characters are two-dimensional entities. Monk stands out from other shows because the characters AREN'T two-dimensional - they're well-rounded and well developed. It's one of the things I like most about the show.

Monk is not a sentimental drama either. It is okay to introduce characters if they add to the story, just not in a sentimental way. Case in point, Trevor. There was nothing sentimental about it: he turns up to get his inheritance from his uncle. Even repeated Trudy's appearence can detract from the show.
Monk is a dark comedy/drama where comedy is not from a plotline but from the characters' playing off eachother. It was not meant to be a situational comedy which it became in the big reward episode or the rock concert etc.

As for well-developed characters, Monk started off with well-developed characters. There was no further explanation needed about Stott, Sharona or Disher. In a movie for example you really don't feel that every main character should have something from its past in order to know more about it. The strength of the show "Monk" lies in the fact that is produced, written and directed by a well-known, talented and experienced people and played by such and hence does not need any further elaboration of characters, IMO.

If we want situational comedy or sentimental drama, we really should look elsewhere instead of expecting it all from "Monk". Monk has an identity when it first started; unfortunately now it is fast losing that, sort of having "an identity crisis" or a "split personality disorder".

fan4sure

Nov 11 2006, 04:24 PM

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At this point, Monk needs to avoid overly sentimental crap and bring itself back to its comedic high or more newbies who were responsible for the latest ratings will jump ship.

Jump Ship?! Not gonna happen. It is a well documented fact that the "newbies" (AKA - the current "dumbed down, wider audience") are extremely loyal viewers and would never stop watching their favorite show! More Monk please!

Actually, I think learning more about Natalie's husband is a great idea. There is a mystery as to what really happened when he died and that is what Monk does, solve mysteries.

Raven

Nov 11 2006, 07:09 PM

I would like to know more about Mitch! Like is he really a coward or not? Knowing more about him will help us to know more about Natalie in a roundabout way. And Julie needs to know more about her father. Does she know about his "cowardice"? If so, then we really need to find out if that's true or not, and I hope it's not! For her sake. IMO.

kees_lady

Nov 11 2006, 07:54 PM

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I would like to know more about Mitch! Like is he really a coward or not? Knowing more about him will help us to know more about Natalie in a roundabout way. And Julie needs to know more about her father. Does she know about his "cowardice"? If so, then we really need to find out if that's true or not, and I hope it's not! For her sake. IMO.

Raven, I believe Natalie has kept the secret of Mitch's supposed cowardice from Julie in the hopes that one day the mystery of why he disappeared will be solved.
What I haven't yet figured out is; is he really dead, his body found or was he MIA and presumed dead? I don't really have a way of checking the back episodes.
Julie needs to believe in her fathers' bravery and what really happeded to Mitch does need to be discovered. Adrian with Stottlemeyers' connections to the FBI may just look into that in further episodes - what a great mystery would be solved but never as great as the mystery surrounding Trudys' death - was the bomb really meant for Adrian or was it because Trudy discovered a cover-up so bizarre she was killed to prevent her from telling the truth.

Pasta

Nov 11 2006, 10:05 PM

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At this point, Monk needs to avoid overly sentimental crap and bring itself back to its comedic high or more newbies who were responsible for the latest ratings will jump ship.

Jump Ship?! Not gonna happen. It is a well documented fact that the "newbies" (AKA - the current "dumbed down, wider audience") are extremely loyal viewers and would never stop watching their favorite show! More Monk please!

Actually, I think learning more about Natalie's husband is a great idea. There is a mystery as to what really happened when he died and that is what Monk does, solve mysteries.

I am a "new viewer" and am not really loyal. The ones on dvd were much better then the ones I watched this past season. The mysteries were better in the early years. I understand why people don't like it so much now, I might not be back if they don't get better again.

Kjeina

Nov 11 2006, 10:57 PM

I am not a new viewer and I have not posted here for almost a year. I like Monk just the way it is now, I liked Monk just the way it was.

I just dropped by to say that. I lurk here now and don't post anymore because this board is a nasty place to belong to. Even the new people here are nasty. Leave my Monk alone. It helps me get over my problems and I don't like people talking bad things about my favorite show.

I want to know what really happened to Natalie's husband and I want Adrian to solve it. I also want to know why Trudy was killed and who did it.

alex455

Nov 12 2006, 03:21 AM

Natalie want to know if her husband was a coward or not. So why she just didn't ask Monk if he could figure it out? May be writers do a an episode where be a father's day and Julie ask mother about her father. She didn't want lie her own daughter anymore and ask Monk if he could find the truth out?! Would be that a good episode? I think it would be and I think that Mitch wasn't and isn't a coward!

iguanamiaman

Nov 12 2006, 10:28 AM

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I am not a new viewer and I have not posted here for almost a year. I like Monk just the way it is now, I liked Monk just the way it was.

I just dropped by to say that. I lurk here now and don't post anymore because this board is a nasty place to belong to. Even the new people here are nasty. Leave my Monk alone. It helps me get over my problems and I don't like people talking bad things about my favorite show.

I want to know what really happened to Natalie's husband and I want Adrian to solve it. I also want to know why Trudy was killed and who did it.

Ah, just another "anything Monk has to be great" opinion. We needed more of those. (eyes roll)

ClippoPuppet

Nov 12 2006, 11:30 AM

I tend to think of these boards as something akin to the old "local chapter fan club" meetings of old, only they aren't local anymore, they're worldwide. The purpose of a board such as this is for people with similar opinions, namely the enjoyment of a particular subject - whether it be a tv show, movie, sport, hobby, book, actor, whatever - to get together in the same room as it were to discuss that topic. So yes, the opinions are pretty much going to be that the topic in question is favored. Do we disagree sometimes? Yes. We all like the topic for different reasons, and to different degrees, and we all have favorite episodes and less favorite episodes. But we all meet here because we LIKE Monk the TV show. So we expect a preponderance of the conversation to be pro Monk the TV show. Certain new posters have come into this forum with distinctly negative views. They post nothing positive. We don't know why the even watch the show because we've heard nothing but what's wrong with it from them. We assume that they only post here because they like to agitate. This forum is a FAN CLUB. Posting nothing but negatives in a fan forum is just like going to a local college sports bar and dissing the local team. You'll get killed. There the sports fans will probably do it literally. In here, we're more figurative. We'll disagree with you, politely if you were polite to start with and probably less so if you weren't. And we'll continue to defend the show, because sorry, but you're in a FAN forum, and we're all fans. If you want to speak negatively about the show, there are forums for that too. Go find one. Does that mean you can't post negative comments about the show? No! But it means that if MOST of your comments about the show are negative, then you're in the wrong room!

mozzy

Nov 12 2006, 11:37 AM

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I tend to think of these boards as something akin to the old "local chapter fan club" meetings of old, only they aren't local anymore, they're worldwide. The purpose of a board such as this is for people with similar opinions, namely the enjoyment of a particular subject - whether it be a tv show, movie, sport, hobby, book, actor, whatever - to get together in the same room as it were to discuss that topic. So yes, the opinions are pretty much going to be that the topic in question is favored. Do we disagree sometimes? Yes. We all like the topic for different reasons, and to different degrees, and we all have favorite episodes and less favorite episodes. But we all meet here because we LIKE Monk the TV show. So we expect a preponderance of the conversation to be pro Monk the TV show. Certain new posters have come into this forum with distinctly negative views. They post nothing positive. We don't know why the even watch the show because we've heard nothing but what's wrong with it from them. We assume that they only post here because they like to agitate. This forum is a FAN CLUB. Posting nothing but negatives in a fan forum is just like going to a local college sports bar and dissing the local team. You'll get killed. There the sports fans will probably do it literally. In here, we're more figurative. We'll disagree with you, politely if you were polite to start with and probably less so if you weren't. And we'll continue to defend the show, because sorry, but you're in a FAN forum, and we're all fans. If you want to speak negatively about the show, there are forums for that too. Go find one. Does that mean you can't post negative comments about the show? No! But it means that if MOST of your comments about the show are negative, then you're in the wrong room!

First, well said! Secondly, I find it a sign of the popularity of Monk that so many people are negative on the fan forum. It goes to show that some people get furious enough at something so many people find great that they will go to "war" with those fans. Nothing gets widely popular without gaining detractors, you know that.

mozzy

Nov 12 2006, 11:48 AM

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Raven, I believe Natalie has kept the secret of Mitch's supposed cowardice from Julie in the hopes that one day the mystery of why he disappeared will be solved.
What I haven't yet figured out is; is he really dead, his body found or was he MIA and presumed dead? I don't really have a way of checking the back episodes.
Julie needs to believe in her fathers' bravery and what really happeded to Mitch does need to be discovered. Adrian with Stottlemeyers' connections to the FBI may just look into that in further episodes - what a great mystery would be solved but never as great as the mystery surrounding Trudys' death - was the bomb really meant for Adrian or was it because Trudy discovered a cover-up so bizarre she was killed to prevent her from telling the truth.

If you believe Dale the Whale, and in this situation I would, the bomb WAS meant for Trudy, not Adrian. You gotta either find someone who has the early season DVDs or buy them yourself. I also want to make the point that it is harder and harder to write a good story EVERY episode. Obviously the way the murder is committed has to be different every time, AND the jokes have to be at least a bit different every time. I'm amazed that the writers have at least stopped Monk from jumping the shark this long. However I DON'T think that the Mitch case needs to be made into an episode, the writers still have some genius left in them, judging especially from the Monk Needs a New Shrink episode, I REALLY WISH that that episode had been the season finale instead of the sitcom rock concert episode!

elfa1

Nov 12 2006, 12:34 PM

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I tend to think of these boards as something akin to the old "local chapter fan club" meetings of old, only they aren't local anymore, they're worldwide. The purpose of a board such as this is for people with similar opinions, namely the enjoyment of a particular subject - whether it be a tv show, movie, sport, hobby, book, actor, whatever - to get together in the same room as it were to discuss that topic. So yes, the opinions are pretty much going to be that the topic in question is favored. Do we disagree sometimes? Yes. We all like the topic for different reasons, and to different degrees, and we all have favorite episodes and less favorite episodes. But we all meet here because we LIKE Monk the TV show. So we expect a preponderance of the conversation to be pro Monk the TV show. Certain new posters have come into this forum with distinctly negative views. They post nothing positive. We don't know why the even watch the show because we've heard nothing but what's wrong with it from them. We assume that they only post here because they like to agitate. This forum is a FAN CLUB. Posting nothing but negatives in a fan forum is just like going to a local college sports bar and dissing the local team. You'll get killed. There the sports fans will probably do it literally. In here, we're more figurative. We'll disagree with you, politely if you were polite to start with and probably less so if you weren't. And we'll continue to defend the show, because sorry, but you're in a FAN forum, and we're all fans. If you want to speak negatively about the show, there are forums for that too. Go find one. Does that mean you can't post negative comments about the show? No! But it means that if MOST of your comments about the show are negative, then you're in the wrong room!

I don't like this tone of who should post what. If you think of negative posters as agitators", it implies that the people who get agitated are sheep-like and somebody else holds the remote control for their reactions! Are you really that passive a person??

Without negative criticism, no progress can ever be made. Just like you don't like negative posts, I don't like unquestioning devotion to anything and in this case the show "Monk". Even in religion, unquestioning devotion can pave the way to become religious fanatics where the only righteous persons are them.

There is also the "ignore "button avaialble for those who don't like certain posters.

Are you trying also to say that unless negative posters stop, they will get killed. The reverse is also true..

kees_lady

Nov 12 2006, 01:08 PM

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I tend to think of these boards as something akin to the old "local chapter fan club" meetings of old, only they aren't local anymore, they're worldwide. The purpose of a board such as this is for people with similar opinions, namely the enjoyment of a particular subject - whether it be a tv show, movie, sport, hobby, book, actor, whatever - to get together in the same room as it were to discuss that topic. So yes, the opinions are pretty much going to be that the topic in question is favored. Do we disagree sometimes? Yes. We all like the topic for different reasons, and to different degrees, and we all have favorite episodes and less favorite episodes. But we all meet here because we LIKE Monk the TV show. So we expect a preponderance of the conversation to be pro Monk the TV show. Certain new posters have come into this forum with distinctly negative views. They post nothing positive. We don't know why the even watch the show because we've heard nothing but what's wrong with it from them. We assume that they only post here because they like to agitate. This forum is a FAN CLUB. Posting nothing but negatives in a fan forum is just like going to a local college sports bar and dissing the local team. You'll get killed. There the sports fans will probably do it literally. In here, we're more figurative. We'll disagree with you, politely if you were polite to start with and probably less so if you weren't. And we'll continue to defend the show, because sorry, but you're in a FAN forum, and we're all fans. If you want to speak negatively about the show, there are forums for that too. Go find one. Does that mean you can't post negative comments about the show? No! But it means that if MOST of your comments about the show are negative, then you're in the wrong room!

I don't like this tone of who should post what. If you think of negative posters as agitators", it implies that the people who get agitated are sheep-like and somebody else holds the remote control for their reactions! Are you really that passive a person??

Without negative criticism, no progress can ever be made. Just like you don't like negative posts, I don't like unquestioning devotion to anything and in this case the show "Monk".

There is also the "ignore "button avaialble for those who don't like certain posters.

Are you trying also to say that unless negative posters stop, they will get killed. The reverse is also true..

I would really like to suggest that that tone of voice will not be tolerated, Young Lady. You should be placed over the knees of "The MONK Fan Club" and have your ask-me-no-questions paddled until you can't sit down followed by a healthy dose of "Lava Soap" in your mouth. Not only is it not becoming of a person who calls themselves an adult but is full of illogic which shows an ignorance beyond my and others toleration levels.

No one here has ever said they like each and every episode of MONK equally as compared to the one before or the one after. If that were the case none of us would have favorite episodes and least favorite episodes, favorite guest stars and least favorite guest stars.

If we all put you on our "Ignore This User" list you would have no one but yourself to argue with but since you do "so" enjoy being the center of attention you would the first to email the admin/mod and complain about *THAT* too.

You are like a child in the toy store, kicking your feet and whining with snot running out your nose because you were told you could not have a certain toy.

If you want to obtain a soap box and preach to the world why don't you preach about something that has real value. Try, for instance the people living in this country that are so ingrained in poverty they cannot afford a cable to watch this program you love to *bash*; or how about the *plight of the homeless*, often put there because they either can't afford the medication they need or their educational needs to find a job were sorry lacking due to abusive, dope dealing parents who just "didn't give a damn" about them. A worthy cause can be found in "YOUR OWN BACKYARD", one which would reach the masses rather than a minor few who choose to have a worldwide Monk fan base here, on this board.

We have been tolerant with our answers to you, level-headed, logical in our responses. We have heaped reason upon reason unto your closed-up mind which you ignore and again start to whine over the same old subject. Either move on or *go see your own therapist* to find out why you continue to act and feel the way you do.

If we choose to like the series Monk as a whole, that is our choice and no one holds the remote control except ourselves.

iguanamiaman

Nov 12 2006, 02:30 PM

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I would really like to suggest that that tone of voice will not be tolerated, Young Lady. You should be placed over the knees of "The MONK Fan Club" and have your ask-me-no-questions paddled until you can't sit down followed by a healthy dose of "Lava Soap" in your mouth. Not only is it not becoming of a person who calls themselves an adult but is full of illogic which shows an ignorance beyond my and others toleration levels.

No one here has ever said they like each and every episode of MONK equally as compared to the one before or the one after. If that were the case none of us would have favorite episodes and least favorite episodes, favorite guest stars and least favorite guest stars.

If we all put you on our "Ignore This User" list you would have no one but yourself to argue with but since you do "so" enjoy being the center of attention you would the first to email the admin/mod and complain about *THAT* too.

You are like a child in the toy store, kicking your feet and whining with snot running out your nose because you were told you could not have a certain toy.

If you want to obtain a soap box and preach to the world why don't you preach about something that has real value. Try, for instance the people living in this country that are so ingrained in poverty they cannot afford a cable to watch this program you love to *bash*; or how about the *plight of the homeless*, often put there because they either can't afford the medication they need or their educational needs to find a job were sorry lacking due to abusive, dope dealing parents who just "didn't give a damn" about them. A worthy cause can be found in "YOUR OWN BACKYARD", one which would reach the masses rather than a minor few who choose to have a worldwide Monk fan base here, on this board.

We have been tolerant with our answers to you, level-headed, logical in our responses. We have heaped reason upon reason unto your closed-up mind which you ignore and again start to whine over the same old subject. Either move on or *go see your own therapist* to find out why you continue to act and feel the way you do.

If we choose to like the series Monk as a whole, that is our choice and no one holds the remote control except ourselves.

Are you are seriously not acknowledging certain forays into abuse that you have made? We don't need a third grade tatttle tale, or a mother, thank you very much, but rather more acceptance on both sides.

kees_lady

Nov 12 2006, 02:56 PM

Are you are seriously not acknowledging certain forays into abuse that you have made? We don't need a third grade tatttle tale, or a mother, thank you very much, but rather more acceptance on both sides.

You have had your acceptance from both sides, what more do you want besides Traylor being kicked off the show?

Bubba_Bridges

Nov 12 2006, 03:01 PM

Hi Bubba here, ...

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If you want to obtain a soap box and preach to the world why don't you preach about something that has real value. Try, for instance the people living in this country that are so ingrained in poverty they cannot afford a cable to watch this program you love to *bash*; or how about the *plight of the homeless*, often put there because they either can't afford the medication they need or their educational needs to find a job were sorry lacking due to abusive, dope dealing parents who just "didn't give a damn" about them. A worthy cause can be found in "YOUR OWN BACKYARD", one which would reach the masses rather than a minor few who choose to have a worldwide Monk fan base here, on this board.

I feel you.

iguanamiaman

Nov 12 2006, 03:10 PM

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I feel you.

Yes, except that is not Monk related and this board is for ANYTHING Monk!

elfa1

Nov 12 2006, 04:31 PM

I would really like to suggest that that tone of voice will not be tolerated, Young Lady. You should be placed over the knees of "The MONK Fan Club" and have your ask-me-no-questions paddled until you can't sit down followed by a healthy dose of "Lava Soap" in your mouth. Not only is it not becoming of a person who calls themselves an adult but is full of illogic which shows an ignorance beyond my and others toleration levels.

No one here has ever said they like each and every episode of MONK equally as compared to the one before or the one after. If that were the case none of us would have favorite episodes and least favorite episodes, favorite guest stars and least favorite guest stars.

If we all put you on our "Ignore This User" list you would have no one but yourself to argue with but since you do "so" enjoy being the center of attention you would the first to email the admin/mod and complain about *THAT* too.

You are like a child in the toy store, kicking your feet and whining with snot running out your nose because you were told you could not have a certain toy.

If you want to obtain a soap box and preach to the world why don't you preach about something that has real value. Try, for instance the people living in this country that are so ingrained in poverty they cannot afford a cable to watch this program you love to *bash*; or how about the *plight of the homeless*, often put there because they either can't afford the medication they need or their educational needs to find a job were sorry lacking due to abusive, dope dealing parents who just "didn't give a damn" about them. A worthy cause can be found in "YOUR OWN BACKYARD", one which would reach the masses rather than a minor few who choose to have a worldwide Monk fan base here, on this board.

We have been tolerant with our answers to you, level-headed, logical in our responses. We have heaped reason upon reason unto your closed-up mind which you ignore and again start to whine over the same old subject. Either move on or *go see your own therapist* to find out why you continue to act and feel the way you do.

If we choose to like the series Monk as a whole, that is our choice and no one holds the remote control except ourselves.

This is purposeful verbal abuse to stop opinions which are against yours. It just shows what type of a person you are. I will just tend to ignore you...

...so back to the topic, Monk is not as good as it used to be...

kees_lady

Nov 12 2006, 04:38 PM

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This is purposeful verbal abuse to stop opinions which are against yours. It just shows what type of a person you are. I will just tend to ignore you...

...so back to the topic, Monk is not as good as it used to be...

Redundant diatribe on a subject which has not changed.

iguanamiaman

Nov 12 2006, 04:45 PM

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Redundant diatribe on a subject which has not changed.

That is the point of this board, to discuss Monk.

ClippoPuppet

Nov 12 2006, 09:55 PM

You know, Kees, the one thing an online forum has over a live, in-person club meeting is you CAN ignore the people who are here only to condemn. I think I shall practice what I preach - I will "change the channel" on this uninteresting "show" and will "ignore" the agitators. Perhaps when they stop getting responses to their posts they will go to a forum that IS made up of others who, like them, find more to complain about the show than to praise.

I will end by stating to both of our prolificly negative posters that although it is correct that questioning things does lead to better understanding of them, it is also true that it takes more strength of character to build up than to tear down. You two have done nothing on this forum but to tear down. You find nothing positive to say, you cry foul when anyone disagrees with you, and you result to name calling and insults against those who do disagree. You have both become "one note wonders" only posting about how much the show has declined or how much you hate it's cast. I personally do not agree, and that does not make me a sheep, sychophant, or shill. Since you don't have anything to add to the conversation other than how much you despise the rest of us on the board, and how much you dislike the show that the rest of us enjoy, there is nothing left but to shut you out so I don't have to listen to your endless prattle. It's not worth arguing with people like you - you twist every post disagreeing with you into an insult or threat against you, knowing full well that it was intended only to make a point and not directed at you. You have absolutely no ability to accept another person's opinion or beliefs - insulting them and resorting to name calling when they say they disagree. Since I've now added both of you to my ignore list, I'll be spared your response to this post so have at it! I enjoy an intellegent debate, especially on subjects in which I have a keen interest like Monk, but it is impossible to have an intellegent conversation with rude, obnoxious and uninformed people like yourselves, so I will cease trying. PLONK!! Wow, it's quieter in here already!!!

kees_lady

Nov 12 2006, 10:05 PM

Clippo,

After finally losing it today and calling a spade a spade I have done just that. These two may debate each other over 'who hates the direction the series may take' with each other for time eternal. It is often said, misery loves company, and these two miserable people will keep each other company.

I wonder if they also realize by using the "Ignore Feature" they will also be blocked in any thread they post in by those who are ignoring them?

Have at it, gals, it's all urine - I do so love to play with words.

USA_Admin

Nov 12 2006, 10:32 PM

There's really only one rule on this board: don't be an a-hole. Somewhere along the line on this thread that rule was broken, so this is closed.