country101
Oct 13 2006, 02:51 PM
Here is an article that list what is on the court document. It is more horrible than you can imagine. The Tennesseean poste it. I feel so bad for her.
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...ID=200661013002
Dave
Oct 13 2006, 03:21 PM
WOW Glad she knew what was happening and got her self and the kids away from the sick [censored]
standup
Oct 13 2006, 03:23 PM
She always seems so happy and self-assured in public. Good for her maintaining her dignity in the face of such turmoil.
Bubba_Bridges
Oct 13 2006, 03:26 PM
Hi Bubba here, I agree with Dave. Wow!
HHIslandGirl
Oct 13 2006, 03:33 PM
Wow...reading that made me ill...Thank goodness she's taking her kids away from that kind of environment! I'll miss her on DWTS, but I know this is the right thing for her to do.
Lucymac
Oct 13 2006, 04:13 PM
That's really sad. I feel bad for her too, but she made the right decision for herself and the kids. What a tough time she is going through right now.
musicsoul
Oct 13 2006, 04:51 PM
She's done the right thing. I had a similar situation, and there's no choice but to take a stand. Good for her. I wish her all the best.
xmaskat
Oct 13 2006, 05:33 PM
How too bad for her and the children. What a horrible situation.
TayaLear
Oct 13 2006, 05:56 PM
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Wow...reading that made me ill...Thank goodness she's taking her kids away from that kind of environment! I'll miss her on DWTS, but I know this is the right thing for her to do.
I was thinking the SAME thing!
Poor Sara
Bransonguy
Oct 13 2006, 06:17 PM
okay I have some razor sharp scissors and I ready to roll to Orgeon Who's with me...lol.. At least that what I liked to do!
Bonnie
Oct 13 2006, 06:18 PM
Personally, while feel really sorry for her, I have to also wonder "WHY did she have the last kid with the sicko?"
towee
Oct 13 2006, 06:21 PM
Wow, and I thought it was "just" going to be an affair...... Good for Sara for doing what she felt was best for her kids.
patns
Oct 13 2006, 07:28 PM
This is really bad, but it could have gotten much worse if she didn't get the kids out of there. But reading that report does it sound to anyone else that he may still have access to the kids?
country101
Oct 13 2006, 07:44 PM
There is a link to a pdf of the court document filed. Sounds like until some things are worked out he will, but obviously with her present. For now she has the house and temporary first custody of the kids. Hard to explain.
Bonnie
Oct 13 2006, 07:45 PM
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This is really bad, but it could have gotten much worse if she didn't get the kids out of there. But reading that report does it sound to anyone else that he may still have access to the kids?
Yes and the thing I wondered about was 'residential visits' - one hopes that means in HER home??
alrightndgirl
Oct 13 2006, 07:54 PM
here is the statement released by Craig S ... Sara's husband...
This will get ugly I'm afraid...
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories....1413&EDATE= Quote:
Statement of Craig Schelske, Husband of Sara Evans
NASHVILLE, Tenn., Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- The following is a statement
of Craig Schelske, husband of Sara Evans:
Sara and our three children are the most important people in my life. I
have made the decision to forgive Sara for the unfortunate campaign that
she and her publicity advisors are currently waging.
I adamantly deny the allegations that are being made.
As distressing as it is to have to communicate about this matter
publicly, Sara has unfortunately become a dramatically different person
over the last year and it is something we have struggled to deal with.
Sadly, it appears we have failed.
The best I can do at this difficult time is ask that people of faith
would pray for her and for my family.
My greatest concern is for my children and the irreparable harm they
are at risk of facing. As such, I will have no further comment on this
matter outside of a courtroom.
SOURCE Craig Schelske
starbaby615
Oct 13 2006, 07:54 PM
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Personally, while feel really sorry for her, I have to also wonder "WHY did she have the last kid with the sicko?"
Guess even the rich & famous can get caught in the co-dependency trap...at least she has enough money to stand on her own two feet which is often not the case for many women.
standup
Oct 13 2006, 08:11 PM
Why should we believe Steve? He has a lot to lose in this matter, of course he wants to protect himself. Personally I believe Sara, why would she lie?
country101
Oct 13 2006, 08:23 PM
According to the documents her lawer filed the have proof of the photos. Also on the same website stating they have proof of an affair he had with her nanny. Then there is the fact that he is unemplyed, so why wouldn't he call her a liar. He was living with her in California and that is where her son questioned him about what he was watching on TV.on Sept 28. That part was from CNN I believe. There is a ton of info on the net, but the one that matters most is the court filing. I feel so bad for her, cause she is gonna go thru he**.
Lucymac
Oct 13 2006, 08:30 PM
I belive Sara too Standup. The stuff on the computer can be proven. I don't think she would go far as to make this all up but it seems only natural that he would deny it.
LastMrk
Oct 13 2006, 08:31 PM
I guess this will hurt
his political career.
alrightndgirl
Oct 13 2006, 08:38 PM
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Why should we believe Steve? He has a lot to lose in this matter, of course he wants to protect himself. Personally I believe Sara, why would she lie?
I'm not saying I believe Craig, I completely believe Sara. I just posted his statement to show how ugly it may get. I think she did the right thing and completely support her and the kids. Sorry if it seemed I didn't.
patns
Oct 13 2006, 10:11 PM
Thanks for giving us the other side of the story alrightgirl.
I also don't belive him for there was absolutely no reason for Sara to pull out of a show that was giving her such wide exposure unless she thought her children were at risk.
Nana4
Oct 13 2006, 10:34 PM
I hate what Sara is having to go thru right now. If it is all true, she definitely is doing the right thing for the children and herself. I am sure she is under a lot of stress and she and children are in my prayers. I hope her husband will just do what is best for the kids.
chris_bu_4
Oct 14 2006, 04:23 AM
sad to see for her an the kids i'm sure she'll have to take some time away from music to resolve this...thats just disgusting on his part..*shakes head*
WalnutValleyGal
Oct 14 2006, 05:55 AM
Playing devil's advocate here....... Divorces are usually ugly. If things were as bad as Sara says then why:
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"Evans requested she be designated the primary residential parent and custodian of the children and that Schelske receive “reasonable residential parenting time with their children."
END QYITE
I'd think she'd go for supervised visitation. My father was an abusive, adulterous alchohoic and I couldn't see him without another adult present until I was 16. Society wasn't nearly as protective of children back then as it is today and yet my mother could make that stick.
standup
Oct 14 2006, 07:16 AM
WalnutValleyGal
Oct 14 2006, 07:30 AM
Standup, I read all that. However, it doesn't answer the question why Sara isn't going for supervised visitation for her children? I suspect most all the allegations are true, but I also think Sara has a big ole PR firm working for her.
patns
Oct 14 2006, 08:05 AM
That's the part I wondered about too. Unless "residentital" means her house with supervision.
TM34567
Oct 14 2006, 10:19 AM
I'm so sorry this happened, and have to agree that her husband is a total slimeball. I wish Sara nothing but the very best from now on. Will keep her & her children in my prayers.
LastMrk
Oct 14 2006, 10:32 AM
I guess "innocent 'till proven guilty" doesn't apply in divorce cases especially when we all know men are slime balls to begin with.
WalnutValleyGal
Oct 14 2006, 12:00 PM
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I guess "innocent 'till proven guilty" doesn't apply in divorce cases especially when we all know men are slime balls to begin with.
Thank you. That's the point I was trying to make with my "playing devil's advocate". It does look like there's quite a bit of proof, but I really don't like to pass judgement until all the facts are available...and that's prolly gonna be awhile.
mary_4
Oct 14 2006, 01:55 PM
I just had someone who lives in Nashville say that to me, wait and reserve judgement until you have ALL the facts. Media is telling her side of the story right now.
country101
Oct 14 2006, 02:12 PM
He put out a statement too, which basically calls her a liar and makes it sound like she has an emotional problem.
Anni1
Oct 14 2006, 08:42 PM
This is so sad!!
They did always seem like such a wonderful, loving family. And to know he was doing this for what I assume to be quite some time during their marriage.
My thoughts and prayers go out to Sara and her children during this difficult time.
IronChefAtlanta
Oct 15 2006, 07:16 PM
I think the most awful truth about this entire thing is that someone somewhere believes that what she says or what he says really matters to any of us.
I know my life hasn't changed since Sara Evans and her people released all these sordid details. I'm no better or worse for knowing.
I would wish that they'd just keep it all to themselves, but I guess it's a little too late for all that.
Does Sara Evans truly believe she is the first woman (or man) who has ever lost a spouse under these conditions, and that she is somehow more of a victim than those people?
Please...
oldfarmer
Oct 15 2006, 07:42 PM
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I think the most awful truth about this entire thing is that someone somewhere believes that what she says or what he says really matters to any of us.
I know my life hasn't changed since Sara Evans and her people released all these sordid details. I'm no better or worse for knowing.
I would wish that they'd just keep it all to themselves, but I guess it's a little too late for all that.
Does Sara Evans truly believe she is the first woman (or man) who has ever lost a spouse under these conditions, and that she is somehow more of a victim than those people?
Please...
Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TM34567
Oct 15 2006, 07:58 PM
Well, The Tennessean (spelling?) published the divorce document. I was shocked that they blacked out a lot of personal information, but published the children's birthdays.
I do think it's harder for Sara than for say, a non-celebrity, because she is in the public eye and has always had such a wholesome image. It's hard for her kids, too. And, I seriously doubt she would have made these accusations without hard proof. It must have been very difficult to admit that someone you have loved would behave so shabbily and mock you & your marriage.
flashymom
Oct 15 2006, 08:01 PM
I feel sorry for ALL of them. They have both made some bad choices. I hope Sara really is telling the truth and doing the right thing. I hope her husband is able to get the help he so desperately needs to overcome his addictions and get his life back on track. I also hope the kids can come through this as stronger individuals, and that Sara and her husband are able to provide a strong united front as PARENTS even though they are no longer able to be married to each other.
I also wish they had kept this to themselves. Unfortunately, her divorce papers became public record once filed, AND she was legally obligated to be completely honest in her reasons. So sad that the media has to jump all over this and publish EVERYTHING -- that just makes it harder for ALL 5 of them........
Nana4
Oct 15 2006, 11:08 PM
I'm going to agree with you here Flashymom. It's too bad the media gets wind of these things and has to make it national news.
I just pray things will be worked out for the children's sake. They should be the main concern! It's still a very very sad situation for all of them
oldfarmer
Oct 16 2006, 08:33 AM
So what's up with the tv ads that ran last night. They said "You've heard the rumors, tune in to hear from Sara about her plans for the show"
IMHO it doesn't exactly sound like she's running from the media!
alrightndgirl
Oct 16 2006, 10:05 AM
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So what's up with the tv ads that ran last night. They said "You've heard the rumors, tune in to hear from Sara about her plans for the show"
IMHO it doesn't exactly sound like she's running from the media!
The statement continued, "Ms. Evans hopes that her fans and TV viewers who've supported her in recent weeks and throughout her music career will respect and understand her need for privacy in the face of these recent events."
I agree oldfarmer...IMO too many details have been released for privacy to even exist now.
oldfarmer
Oct 16 2006, 10:31 AM
Alright,
Thanks for getting the rest of the info on the board. I'll admit that by the second time I heard the spot I was doing my best to tune it all out.
elliotfan
Oct 16 2006, 01:29 PM
i think it's awfull that her personal life has become a topic for public discussion, what happened in her marriage is none of our business, voicing supprt is fine, but discussing who did what to who? how would any of us feel if there were a thread about our lives on a message board?
WalnutValleyGal
Oct 16 2006, 01:49 PM
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i think it's awfull that her personal life has become a topic for public discussion, what happened in her marriage is none of our business, voicing supprt is fine, but discussing who did what to who? how would any of us feel if there were a thread about our lives on a message board?
Like a star ! That's the price of fame. I'm not saying it's right, but I'll sure claim it is.
mdmusic
Oct 16 2006, 06:38 PM
I just heard about this over the weekend. What a horrible situation for her and the kids. My heart breaks for her. I can't imagine being in that position. She seems like such a beautiful person inside and out. I really hope she will be able to find true happiness...obviously she's better without HIM!!!
alrightndgirl
Oct 16 2006, 09:14 PM
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i think it's awfull that her personal life has become a topic for public discussion, what happened in her marriage is none of our business, voicing supprt is fine, but discussing who did what to who? how would any of us feel if there were a thread about our lives on a message board?
See that's my point. In her statement it was requested that they be given privacy. For someone who's wanting privacy, we are getting alot of details. Granted she had to put that in the divorce papers and in the restraining order request I'm sure, but why would she need to go on public television tomorrow night to let everybody know why she's withdrawing from the competition. I think having the hosts make a simple announcement would be sufficient...JMO.
patns
Oct 16 2006, 10:27 PM
This summer Sara did a show in Calgary and CMT Canada had a very in depth interview with her with Elissa Lansdell. They drug it out to replay now that this has all developed. It is unbelievable to listen to her gush on and on about her marriage and how they would never consider seperating because it's against their value system and so on and so on. This was only a few months ago. Pretty rapid fall from the world's most perfect man to alcoholic porno king?????Seems to be more than what meets the eye in this.
Lucymac
Oct 16 2006, 10:36 PM
I sense that a lot of things came to light last week, or at least how extreme they were. Other "details" I heard today were one of the people he had an affair with was the nanny, that he kept momentos of all his sexual liasons, that the day before Sara filed, he cleaned out there checking and savings accounts, and that Sara is terrified of him. While I do think there is more to this, at the same time it seems like there is so much that can be verified with evidence, that I have a hard time believing it can just be made up because it could so easily be proven false if the evidence doesn't exist. I blame the media for all of this being exposed. Unfortunately this is probably just the tip of the iceberg and it's only going to get uglier.
IronChefAtlanta
Oct 17 2006, 06:50 AM
It's pretty clear it isn't all made up, like you said. If there are images of him naked and having sex, those can be proven, as can the fact that he cleaned out the checking and savings accounts. Proof is not the issue making me question the importance of all this.
It really isn't important for the public to know what a lousy [censored] this guy is. Let's look at Christie Brinkley's divorce. There was a flurry of "OMG! Can you believe this guy?", but Christie Brinkley took the high road and did not divulge all the sordid details of her divorce, and since then the entire thing has slipped into obscurity.
Sara Evans is not taking the high road. Her children may be too young to read and watch and understand the news now... but in ten years, who is to say that they won't come across all these tidbits? So is she really protecting her family by not suppressing all this information that is contained in the court documents?
I know that certain information in the courts is a matter of public record, so anyone can go and pay a fee and see pretty much anything, legally... but couldn't her attorneys petition the judge for a gag order, so that newspapers do not freely distribute every minute detail?
I think she's basking in the glow of all the attention she's getting from this, but in the long run, I think her need to publicly humiliate her soon-to-be ex-spouse is clouding her judgement.
Yes, she's a victim, and that sucks, but again-- she is not the only woman to ever lose her spouse to alcoholism, extramarital affairs, internet porn, and the former nanny. So what if she's in the public eye? She could take measures to ensure her privacy and better protect her children in the long run.
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