ParisSun
Jul 24 2006, 08:58 AM
I so sick of going from thread to thread and hearing people downgrade the show and the remaining characters and then whine about Lily and Kyle being gone. Example, "I hate Isabelle, she can't act. Where is Kyle? Why did they get rid of Lily?" These questions have been answered a million times already. It was understandable the first couple of weeks. But it's now getting ridiculous. They're gone, let go. It's just a show. People move on in real life. There is no reason to bash Isabelle, the writers, the show or other characters because your favorite character/actor is off the show. The solution is to stop watching the show or find something else good about the show. If you can't, stop watching the show. If want to critique the show, fine. But stop with the constant whining about Lily and Kyle. You know why they aren't on the show. This goes for those who keep asking when Jordan will be back. You've already been told when he will be back, so why keep asking the question. Thank you.
mickeysfriend
Jul 24 2006, 10:37 AM
Maybe people just want to post something and can't think of anything more important?? Or maybe people are just catching up with this season because several have posted that they are new to show and have questions?? Or maybe some of these posts that you are reading are dated at the beginning of this season and people are using those threads to post new stuff. Typically, if you notice...a new thread addressing these issues do not get much viewing time from those who have been on this board. I guess you just have to consider the source.
I too agree with you that if someone doesn't like the show....just go away. But here again, there maybe a possibility that people are attempting to bring on a debate.
Whiterose70611
Jul 24 2006, 10:51 AM
I agree everyone is dwelling on the loss of Lily and Kyle way to much and besides Kyle will be comming back and Lily , Laura Allen just decided to move on and everyone should accept her decision . I mean it is just a show .
booloop87
Jul 24 2006, 11:54 AM
Just adding my two cents, I don't think Kyle is gone for good. If Jordan comes back, then legally Kyle is should be cleared. Unless they still charge him for atleast attempted murder since he did fess up to something ... I think perhaps we'll see him next season if Jordan is set to come back sure the last few eps.
carolann
Jul 24 2006, 11:58 AM
And Laura Allen didn't decide to leave. The show tried to slash her agreed upon salary and she refused. Same thing with the actor who played Kyle. They didn't just choose to leave but were pushed out. And to me the show is totally different and in the toilet. It doesn't help that the actress who plays Isabelle is in my opinion an awful actress and being shoved down the viewers throats.
new4400fan
Jul 24 2006, 01:27 PM
I think some of the criticisms of the actress portraying Isabelle are unfair. The writers seem to want her to play a vixen, a young adult with almost limitless powers who went from 12 months old to 20-something in a blink without any of the maturity in between. Personally, I think the actress is doing that fine.
While I'm not all that impressed with the Isabelle story arc (and it has zero to do with Lily/Kyle/Collier), I lay the blame more at the feet of the writers/director than the actress. She's just playing a part.
Elle
Jul 24 2006, 01:50 PM
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I think some of the criticisms of the actress portraying Isabelle are unfair. The writers seem to want her to play a vixen, a young adult with almost limitless powers who went from 12 months old to 20-something in a blink without any of the maturity in between. Personally, I think the actress is doing that fine.
While I'm not all that impressed with the Isabelle story arc (and it has zero to do with Lily/Kyle/Collier), I lay the blame more at the feet of the writers/director than the actress. She's just playing a part.
I completely agree with you. Megalyn's doing a great job portraying Isabelle, as she is written so any issues with the character should be taken up with the writers.
carolann
Jul 24 2006, 03:18 PM
layers whatsoever. That's what makes a character interesting whether they're a villain or not. That's what made Jordan Collier interesting to me because of the layers that Billy Campbell put into his character. The actrees who plays Isabelle is in my opinion very 1-note.
new4400fan
Jul 24 2006, 04:14 PM
Personally, I don't think she's meant to have any complexity at all. How deep can a 2 year old 21 year old with seemingly unlimited powers and a raging libido be? Shawn is her first love and her first breakup. Do you remember the Twilight Zone episode, It's a Good Life, with Bill (?) Mumy from Lost In Space as the little boy? For that matter, how deep is your average "normal" 20 year old?
Is she Meryl Streep caliber? No. But I haven't seen this actress in anything else so I can't say whether she's capable of more or if what we see is all she is.
But again, I would blame the director/writers. If an actor decides to pick his/her nose in the middle of a scene I feel it's the director's job to stop and reshoot until they get it right. IMO, they're the ones ultimately responsible.
RoseFarrar
Jul 26 2006, 04:01 AM
I for one missed the first few episodes this season and didn't realize at first the Lilly had been taken from the show, I assumed they just had her on vacation a few episodes or something. I was rather disappointed when I found out. I'll try to bare with the show but after losing Collier, Kyle, & Lilly things are a bit strange. I was worried with the Mia missing thing for a minute. I sure hope they don't continue killing off characters. They should have just paid Laura was she was promised. There was a lot of potential there, what a shame. I do hope the show improves soon or there may not be a season 4. It's fine that they killed off alot of the 4400s except for main characters/cast that isn't too good an idea. Alot of fans may not be very forgiving although it seemed to work out ok for Three's Company when the screwed Suzanne Sommers aka Chrisy over but the show was near really the same. Maybe they will realize that a lot fans don't seem to like the actress playing Isabelle and will replace her with a winner. Just hang in there and hope they will hear their fans before it's to late and they cancel the show. That would be a real shame for a show with such real promise. You do know that they could correct the Lilly situation easily, they have played with the past & future quit a bit already what would stop them?! Oh well just felt like putting my two cents in.
Like I said I blinked and missed it I'm sure alot of others did too.
xoxo_Christina
Jul 26 2006, 11:46 PM
I want Laura back!!!!!! If you don't like that, though s***
wdream38
Jul 27 2006, 10:16 PM
I want Kyle back,I miss him a lot
Muldfeld
Jul 28 2006, 01:26 AM
How do you know this about Laura Allen? Where did you get this information? I'd like to know because I have been trying to find out for a long time. If what you say is true, that's terrible!
mrb
Jul 28 2006, 08:48 PM
kyle is coming back it will be eposide 11.
savage23
Jul 29 2006, 05:57 PM
and im sick of people who think they are the best. dude if people want to come on here and ask where kyle and lily are and why they're gone maybe its becuase they dont know, they missed an episode, or they didnt understand the episode. like me for example. i didnt really understand why kyle left. i missed a few episodes becuase i was on vacation. i tivoed them but they got deleted. so i was wondered if someone can let me in on the whole kyle deal. thanks. he was my favorite character but now he's gone. that saddens me..
mrb
Jul 29 2006, 09:21 PM
kyle shot joran collier then he turns himself in last eposide in season 2. Joran collier show up alive end of season 2. Joran collier come back in eposide 11 of this season and kyle come back too.
deepwater
Jul 30 2006, 09:51 PM
maybe those who hate the show, want to complain, or miss the actors, should open up their own thread so the rest of us don't have to read about it. Those who don't like the show actally don't have to watch it. Unless Tess is making them or something. I mean, come on, you choose to watch this show; stop complaining.
fairyqueen1130
Jul 31 2006, 03:07 AM
wait? is this true! i cant have the same respect for the show if the show tried to cut their salary
ParisSun
Jul 31 2006, 07:06 AM
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And Laura Allen didn't decide to leave. The show tried to slash her agreed upon salary and she refused. Same thing with the actor who played Kyle. They didn't just choose to leave but were pushed out. And to me the show is totally different and in the toilet. It doesn't help that the actress who plays Isabelle is in my opinion an awful actress and being shoved down the viewers throats.
How do you know that? How could you possibly know what's in her contract? I can't dispute what you are saying, but who is your source? My original point stands. You can tell by the usernames that it's the same people from the first episode who are continuing to whine about Kyle and Lily. I can't understand why someone would watch most of the season and whine all the way to the end. I'm glad you're watching for ratings purposes but it's silly to keep watching something you don't like.
gdogg24
Jul 31 2006, 01:55 PM
I don't get the problem with isabelle did anyone see the show when she put on that one woman wrecking crew on the NOVA group on top of that she has the best abilities I mean potentially she has every ability wats better then that and heh heh... I don't see anything wrong with the actress that plays her
CTM638
Jul 31 2006, 04:34 PM
Please stop or hide posts about the return of Jordon and Kyle. There are some people who don't want to know if and/or when they will be back.
gdogg24
Jul 31 2006, 04:52 PM
well i hope you didn't read Mia's diary cause it looks like thats what it says still I could be wrong
SushiGal
Aug 4 2006, 09:47 AM
Quote:
And Laura Allen didn't decide to leave. The show tried to slash her agreed upon salary and she refused. Same thing with the actor who played Kyle. They didn't just choose to leave but were pushed out. And to me the show is totally different and in the toilet. It doesn't help that the actress who plays Isabelle is in my opinion an awful actress and being shoved down the viewers throats.
The show did not try to slash her salary. What they did try to do, was to change her already agreed upon signed contract, and that just was not acceptable to her. Laura is doing great now though. She is set to film an independant horror film in the next week or two, then she will be flying off to Italy to get married, and then back to California to start filming "Dirt" with Courteney Cox-Arquette.
gdogg24
Aug 4 2006, 11:39 AM
So they basically wanted to viloate her already agreed upon contract or is that too much?
shirleytpa
Aug 5 2006, 11:46 AM
Whatever the case..we miss her and I hope her career blossoms.
gdogg24
Aug 5 2006, 06:15 PM
I think she deserves it with the show or off it she's a great actress
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