BeautyQueen
Mar 28 2006, 11:20 PM
I think that Monique is a nice singer, but she is so unlikable! She has no stage presence and is in no way gracious. I think that if she had showed a nicer personality and presented herself in a more likable way, she would have gone farther.
I was shocked and embarrassed for her fans with the way she left the show . . . she didn't even thank the people who tirelessly voted for her. If that is her attitude, I dare say I am glad she is gone.
AngieW
Mar 28 2006, 11:28 PM
Maybe she was just too nervous. I know when I sing, I am so nervous I feel nauseated, and cant think straight.
mjs
Mar 29 2006, 12:13 AM
She was trying to make a joke. I think it shows how quick her mind is....the average person would have made some canned comments about thanking their fans....
kahne4sure
Mar 29 2006, 01:38 AM
I didn't take her comment at the end of the show in a negative manner. I think she was in shock at being voted off. I liked how she made a joke out of the situation. i was shocked she was voted off. I liked her personality and thought she had the best voice out of any of the contestants. When she sang Faith Hill's "When the Lights Go Down" I thought she sang it better than Faith Hill and I love Faith Hill.
Moniques_Fan
Mar 29 2006, 09:05 PM
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I think that Monique is a nice singer, but she is so unlikable! She has no stage presence and is in no way gracious. I think that if she had showed a nicer personality and presented herself in a more likable way, she would have gone farther.
I was shocked and embarrassed for her fans with the way she left the show . . . she didn't even thank the people who tirelessly voted for her. If that is her attitude, I dare say I am glad she is gone.
I'm very sorry you got a bad impression of Monique. I met her when she was 13 and she has ALWAYS been open and friendly and accepting of anyone and everyone. She really is a wonderful person and an outrageously gifted singer. Hopefully you'll get the opportunity to see who she is in the future. Please try to look with an open mind. I promise that she was joking with her comment. And I, as a Big Fan of hers, was not offended. I'd stay up many more nights to vote for her. Heck, when I was in Nashville, I had to stay up until 1:30 a.m. to be able to vote for her from my cell phone. I'd do it again in a heartbeat because I know how wonderful she is.
Ms_Ellie
Mar 29 2006, 09:58 PM
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I think that Monique is a nice singer, but she is so unlikable! She has no stage presence and is in no way gracious. I think that if she had showed a nicer personality and presented herself in a more likable way, she would have gone farther.
I was shocked and embarrassed for her fans with the way she left the show . . . she didn't even thank the people who tirelessly voted for her. If that is her attitude, I dare say I am glad she is gone.
Oh please do not be embarrased for this fan because I thought Monique did a fine job and her little comment at the end wasn't even a serious comment. Please little miss beauty queen, I would love to see you get up here and do a better job. I know I would fall apart myself. Oh well I guess when we can sit on our butt's on a computer we can think anything we want.
phelanfroggy
Mar 29 2006, 10:40 PM
My.....did you register just to make that one post Beauty Queen? It appears that way. How lady like of yourself. Were you a previous competitor who is bitter maybe? Please do not seek out Moniques fans to condemn her to them, talk about lacking grace! Your description of Monique, in my opinion, is a near perfect description of my first impression of you. Maybe you should consider some "Miss Manners" courses yourself, in the meantime go project elswhere.
dare I say.... buh bye!
BeautyQueen
Mar 30 2006, 01:46 AM
Ms. Ellie and Phelanfroggy, it seems as though both of you personally know Monique, so you may be familiar with how she is. As someone who does not know her personally, I didn't really interpret her exiting comments as jokes, however I will have to trust you both in saying that.
MsEllie, had I beed up there (and I know that I would have not been a better singer up there) I would have at least thanked my fans. I mean, obviously not all of Moniques fans know her personally, and some of us dialled our fingers to the nub! I mean, if she wants to make a joke or whatever you say it was, that's fine, but maybe it would have been nice to also said a quick thanks also, you know?
Phelanfroggy: Yeah, I did just register to make this one post . . . I thought that is what message boards were for, to post your comments. I am, not, in fact, a former contestant, I am a fan who wanted to talk about what I saw on the show - again, what I thought this area was for. I am sorry if you feel personally insulted by my impressions of Monique (who, it seems to be a personal friend of yours?), but I was just saying what I felt. Again, since you seem to know her, you may be used to her personality and how she jokes or whatever, but those of us who are not close, personal friends have no past references to compare her to.
Your initial impression of me is your business, if you think I am a wretched person, that's fine, but I will not go project elsewhere. This is a forum for discussion, and that is what I am doing here.
Everyone else who commented, I appreciate your views, and thank you for giving them in an informative and polite way. Moniques_Fan, your post makes me hope that you're right - that I did just get a bad impression. Like I said before, Monique has a lovely voice. Hopefully I have the opportunity to see the lovely person you say that she is! Thanks.
Ms_Ellie
Mar 30 2006, 10:33 AM
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I think that Monique is a nice singer, but she is so unlikable! She has no stage presence and is in no way gracious. I think that if she had showed a nicer personality and presented herself in a more likable way, she would have gone farther.
I was shocked and embarrassed for her fans with the way she left the show . . . she didn't even thank the people who tirelessly voted for her. If that is her attitude, I dare say I am glad she is gone.
Missbeautyqueen maybe you should read back over the way you came off with the comment you made. Yes we do know Monique personally and I gaurantee to all fans everywhere that dialed their fingers to the bones, (and I might add that we appreciate as much as Monique did) that there are two reasons she came off that way and one is that she was joking and maybe the joke didn't come off to you as a joke because she was actually pretty sad standing up there being kicked off the show. Have you thought about the possibility that there was a little emotion building up after sitting there for an hour knowing that with each time your name is not called you are closer to going home? I don't know but maybe even I would not have been as perfectly graceful as all my fans would have wanted me to be. Maybe in all that I would have (without really meaning to) offended some of the wonderful people who dialed tirelessly to vote for me. But it would not have been my intention to do that and I know it was not Monique's intention either. So I ask that you and any of her other fans that suddenly find her "so unlikeable" after that one little comment, to please forgive her for not being perfect. Don't you just kind of wish that T.V. had this magic button that allows you to pick and choose what you want to hear and you press it and everone always says or does just what you want? me too
georgectv
Mar 30 2006, 03:50 PM
Ms_Ellie, you are right... it's the curse of live TV... people say what they are thinking at the moment... they know the subtle meaning behind what comes from their mouth, but all the viewers hear are the words, and they get interpreted 1000 different ways.
As someone who isn't a personal friend, but had the opportunity to introduce myself to her after the first two shows... I found her to be very charming, warm, gracious, and grateful for her fans. We will be at all the shows, and the hardest part is having to see ANYONE go each week. I don't know any of them personally, but everyone becomes friends, and it's rough regardless of who leaves. For any of you that are friends of Monique, if you will still be attending future shows, drop me a PM, and come say hello at the show!
George
cowboyup07
Mar 30 2006, 04:15 PM
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I didn't take her comment at the end of the show in a negative manner. I think she was in shock at being voted off. I liked how she made a joke out of the situation. i was shocked she was voted off. I liked her personality and thought she had the best voice out of any of the contestants. When she sang Faith Hill's "When the Lights Go Down" I thought she sang it better than Faith Hill and I love Faith Hill.
You got to be kidding me. She was the one who should have been voted off. Her voice is ok nothing I can see myself going out a buying one of her CD's. She surely doesn't have the look but its not a beauty contest. I personlly don't like her at all. She would have or should not have one the contest anyway "she aint country".
MommaKB
Mar 30 2006, 05:27 PM
I was sorry to see Monique go because she is the only female who had quality voice control on all of her performances. If you taped the programs, please go back and watch them again.....the girl had a fantastic voice. On the second show, though I wasn't fond of the jeans, she worked that stage and was enjoying what she was doing. Another of the female contestants just kept stepping "in and out of the box", back and forth and messed up her song, yet she had the votes to stay. We just didn't have enough votes to keep Monique there. As for her comment when she was bumped....I don't know her personally, have never met her, but I knew it was said in a joking manner. As a fan, I wasn't offended. I really do not care for any of the other female singers so all of my votes will be going to the guys.
newbie
Mar 30 2006, 05:52 PM
monique is more liked then u beauty queen (not) you have nerve talking about someone like that you know everything you do and say comes back 10 fold ur just jealous that you were not on the stage take some of your own advice get a real job
newbie
Mar 30 2006, 05:56 PM
just face the facts dear you never have made it thus far and never will put down your old tiera and go cry for a spell maybe ur daddy will buy u a contest, dont you even think im done with u missy you have alot of guts comming on here talking trash about our girl, god forbid u have kids of ur own they will fall just like you what comes around goes around now get the hell out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phelanfroggy
Mar 30 2006, 07:36 PM
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Ms. Ellie and Phelanfroggy, it seems as though both of you personally know Monique, Beauty Queen Monique is in fact my cousin, but that does not excuse the impolite manner in which you expressed your dissapointment. so you may be familiar with how she is. As someone who does not know her personally, I didn't really interpret her exiting comments as jokes, however I will have to trust you both in saying that. If you go back and refresh your memory on what I wrote you will find I did not say anything about Monique joking. I can not, and do not claim to know what she was thinking at that moment. What I can do however, is cut her some slack considering the pressure she is under, and the feeling of dissapointment she must have experienced at that moment.
MsEllie, had I beed up there (and I know that I would have not been a better singer up there) I would have at least thanked my fans. I mean, obviously not all of Moniques fans know her personally, and some of us dialled our fingers to the nub! Glad to see you can still type with nubs. *that's a joke* Does this mean you were voting for her? If so, why did you not show your support on the message boards? I mean, if she wants to make a joke or whatever you say it was, that's fine, but maybe it would have been nice to also said a quick thanks also, you know? I hear your dissapointment, however, did you watch any of the other episodes, read any of the blogs, listen to any of the blogs? She thanked family, fans, friends and new fans on the other shows, blogs, websites, etc.
Phelanfroggy: Yeah, I did just register to make this one post . . . I thought that is what message boards were for, to post your comments. I am, not, in fact, a former contestant, I am a fan who wanted to talk about what I saw on the show - again, what I thought this area was for. If you were such a fan I ask again... where were you before now? The message boards are for fans to talk about the show, and many do so without being nasty. I am sorry if you feel personally insulted by my impressions of Monique (who, it seems to be a personal friend of yours?), but I was just saying what I felt.I am not, in fact, "personally" insulted by your impressions of Monique. Once again, you have misinterpreted what was said. I do not have a problem with you expressing your opinion or dissapointment. What I don't care for is the way you expressed them. Monique is not the only contestant I have defended from personal attacks. Again, since you seem to know her, you may be used to her personality and how she jokes or whatever, but those of us who are not close, personal friends have no past references to compare her to. Do you honestly believe it was Moniques intention to insult everyone watching?
Your initial impression of me is your business, if you think I am a wretched person I do not think you are a wretched person, I don't know you well enough to make that determination. My initial impression was based off your own message title & description not mine, so if that equates to wretched well...., that's fine, but I will not go project elsewhere. That's fine...but don't expect to avoid the consequences of your actions if they are rude and disrepectful. This is a forum for discussion, and that is what I am doing here. Is that what you call it? Again...why now? and why did you choose that topic and to express yourself in such a negative manner? Most here are able to express themselves with respect without offending anyone. In fact there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. Yours just wasn't constructive.
Everyone else who commented, I appreciate your views, and thank you for giving them in an informative and polite way. I am happy to see that you can appreciate others for sharing their views in an informative and POLITE way. Have you ever heard of the term "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" or are you just a hypocrite? Moniques_Fan, your post makes me hope that you're right - that I did just get a bad impression. Sorry, I do not molly-coddle those who attempt to hold others to higher standards than they themselves practice. Had you taken the high road to begin with and expressed yourself without the insults we wouldn't be having this discussion. Like I said before, Monique has a lovely voice. I'm sure Monique will appreciate your saying so and will probably take note of your cristicism and dissapointment too in spite of how it was presented. Hopefully I have the opportunity to see the lovely person you say that she is! Thanks.
MaeRee
Mar 30 2006, 08:48 PM
I don't know her at all, have only seen her on stage at the regional competition in January and then again live at each of the shows. I haven't met her, I haven't been anywhere near her, and I don't know any of her family members or friends. With all that said, there was absolutely no question in my mind....SHE WAS JOKING!
She has a beautiful voice, she's a gorgeous woman, and I am hoping and praying we'll see her somewhere, anywhere, singing professionally.
Meri
Moniques_Fan
Mar 30 2006, 09:21 PM
I try real hard to bite my tongue but I can no longer hold it.
Cowboyup07 - You're an idiot.
Newbie - Chill a bit
That's it. Monique is wonderful and we know it. Soon all her new fans will know it too.
BeautyQueen
Mar 30 2006, 10:20 PM
How I wish I knew how to get multiple quotes into a reply, but alas, I am not that slick with a computer, so I guess I will have to make one long post.
Newbie – Oh, goodness. Most of what you said made no sense, as I do not know where you think I have not “made it” or what tiara I should put down, or where/what I have fallen from. As for my dad buying me a contest . . . um . . . what? What advice did I give for the implication that I need to “get a real job”? Oh well, I will chalk your strange, confusing comments up to anger on your part.
Phelan – I did not say that you were one that said Monique was joking in her parting comments to the audience and viewers – that was part of a comment I had directed to the attention of both yourself and MissEllie. That part what addressing whoever brought up the joke thing, if nor you, then MissEllie. The fact the Monique is your cousin shows that you do know her and her personality (I am assuming . . . I have cousins who I don’t know well, but from your involvement and comments, I hope it is safe to assume that you and your cousin are close) and would know how to interpret her comments and actions.
Where I was before Monique was voted off? I was, in fact, voting for Monique, from several phones, as much as I could (which, might I mention was terribly difficult because I got a busy signal most of the time . . . which was probably good news – it means people are voting, right??) I do not have to go online to show support, do I? I mean, I will bet there are tons of Monique Fans who aren’t online showing support, but who do support her. I was not aware of any blogs that she had, and therefore did not read them.
Being her cousin (or, for those who are not related, friends or super fans) I can see how you would not appreciate the context of my original comment. Reading over it, it could sound a bit harsh. You have to take into account, however, that I posted it right after I heard it. Cooler heads would perhaps have chosen more careful words. Do I disagree with what I said, though? Not exactly.
Do I think it was Monique’s intention to insult anyone? Of course not. I don’t believe she was out to purposely offend anyone, however, many actions we make in life are not done to purposely try to hurt people (unless, I guess, you are “newbie” making a comment ).
If I offended you or anyone, I am sorry that you took my comments as offensive. You said I didn’t offer constructive criticism, but I believe I did. I stated my feelings, and stated what I believe could have been done differently for a different end result. Is that not constructive criticism?
Also, when I spoke of polite responses to my post, I meant polite in the way that they were not written with little personal jabs in them, such as “Miss Manners,” “How ladylike of yourself” and a couple of other snide remarks, not polite in the way that the person is saying things that I like and speaking (well, typing) in a more gentle tone. Again, I can see how you may be extra sensitive to what you read, as you are a family member.
MissEllie – I figured that Monique had a plethora of emotions running through her the whole night – especially at that moment. I guess what shocked me most about her comment was that there was no, “Just kidding, thanks everyone” or similar comment. However, thinking about it more, maybe there was no time for that at that moment. I watched at the end of the show when she was talking with that little gentleman, and, and was waiting for her to give a shout out to her fans! I was sad to hear nothing along those lines, but excited to hear that she had some offers come her way. You make a good argument in pointing out that being on a TV show such as this one does not allow you to capture a person’s complete demeanor.
Speaking of not being able to show as much on TV as we would wish, did anyone else notice that Monique wasn’t in the chip commercial that the contestants were in? What gives?? Maybe I just missed seeing her, but I didn’t think she was in it! Do they film those after people have left the show? If so, that is silly, because you could tell who left the show!
newbie
Mar 30 2006, 11:21 PM
kiss my gritts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
aria3329
Mar 30 2006, 11:35 PM
I agree with you about Monique! She has an incredible talent but.....she turned me off by her parting comments. Let's face it....everyone, but one, will eventually be voted off NS. And yet, she got the opportunity to perform in from of tens of millions of people. I would want to leave the best impression possible.... if I had been in her place. Even Wynonna told her to call her so apparently she personally liked Monique and I'm sure that this experience will eventually lead to greater things for Monique. Personally, I'm glad she's gone.
Highwayfifteen
Mar 31 2006, 10:15 AM
She was joking!
Artists rely on their fans to attend their concerts and buy their cds. Be resonable, nobody is going to intentionally insult their fans. In the split second after her disappoint of not being chosen she tried to make a joke. A few people took it the wrong way. You can't forgive her for that?
Another thing, when Gretchen Wilson sang "California Girls", do you think that her California fans were insulted? Of course not. That is what you call a "tongue in cheek" joke.
vicktoiralee
Mar 31 2006, 12:32 PM
Ive been reading all these posts and cant believe that people are just so negitive and unhappy that they have to pick on someone they dont even know and just see on tv. Hell she has more guts then any of us have or we would be there instead of here. I think that if I were her I probably wouldnt of thank the fans either after all they are the ones who voted her off, and Im sure she will thank her true fans by contuining with her music and make a name for her self she is a fantastic singer and is full of life. I would buy her cd! we should all be careful about casting stones until we are in their shoes...and yes I just registered just to say that
Ms_Ellie
Mar 31 2006, 07:39 PM
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Ive been reading all these posts and cant believe that people are just so negitive and unhappy that they have to pick on someone they dont even know and just see on tv. Hell she has more guts then any of us have or we would be there instead of here. I think that if I were her I probably wouldnt of thank the fans either after all they are the ones who voted her off, and Im sure she will thank her true fans by contuining with her music and make a name for her self she is a fantastic singer and is full of life. I would buy her cd! we should all be careful about casting stones until we are in their shoes...and yes I just registered just to say that
Exactly my point!!
Ms_Ellie
Mar 31 2006, 08:46 PM
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How I wish I knew how to get multiple quotes into a reply, but alas, I am not that slick with a computer, so I guess I will have to make one long post.
Newbie – Oh, goodness. Most of what you said made no sense, as I do not know where you think I have not “made it” or what tiara I should put down, or where/what I have fallen from. As for my dad buying me a contest . . . um . . . what? What advice did I give for the implication that I need to “get a real job”? Oh well, I will chalk your strange, confusing comments up to anger on your part.
Phelan – I did not say that you were one that said Monique was joking in her parting comments to the audience and viewers – that was part of a comment I had directed to the attention of both yourself and MissEllie. That part what addressing whoever brought up the joke thing, if nor you, then MissEllie. The fact the Monique is your cousin shows that you do know her and her personality (I am assuming . . . I have cousins who I don’t know well, but from your involvement and comments, I hope it is safe to assume that you and your cousin are close) and would know how to interpret her comments and actions.
Where I was before Monique was voted off? I was, in fact, voting for Monique, from several phones, as much as I could (which, might I mention was terribly difficult because I got a busy signal most of the time . . . which was probably good news – it means people are voting, right??) I do not have to go online to show support, do I? If you can go online to show disqust, then it makes sense that if you were a fan, you would have gone online to show support! I mean, I will bet there are tons of Monique Fans who aren’t online showing support, but who do support her. I was not aware of any blogs that she had, and therefore did not read them.
Being her cousin (or, for those who are not related, friends or super fans) I can see how you would not appreciate the context of my original comment. Reading over it, it could sound a bit harsh. You have to take into account, however, that I posted it right after I heard it. You have to take into consideration that Monique made her comment after being kicked off one of her dreams! Cooler heads would perhaps have chosen more careful words. cooler heads huh?, how about that! Do I disagree with what I said, though? Not exactly.
Do I think it was Monique’s intention to insult anyone? Of course not. I don’t believe she was out to purposely offend anyone, So you did understand that her intention weren't to offend anyone? however, many actions we make in life are not done to purposely try to hurt people (unless, I guess, you are “newbie” making a comment ).
If I offended you or anyone, I am sorry that you took my comments as offensive. You did not mean to offend anyone? You said I didn’t offer constructive criticism, but I believe I did. I read back over your statement and I guarrantee, there was nothing constructive about it at all. I stated my feelings, and stated what I believe could have been done differently for a different end result. Is that not constructive criticism? NO
Also, when I spoke of polite responses to my post, I meant polite in the way that they were not written with little personal jabs in them, such as “Miss Manners,” “How ladylike of yourself” or "so unlikeable", or "no stage presence", or "in no way gracious"! and a couple of other snide remarks, not polite in the way that the person is saying things that I like and speaking (well, typing) in a more gentle tone. Again, I can see how you may be extra sensitive to what you read, as you are a family member.
MissEllie – I figured that Monique had a plethora What the hell is a plethora? of emotions running through her the whole night – especially at that moment. I guess what shocked me most about her comment was that there was no, “Just kidding, thanks everyone” or similar comment. However, thinking about it more, maybe there was no time for that at that moment. I watched at the end of the show when she was talking with that little gentleman, and, and was waiting for her to give a shout out to her fans! I was sad to hear nothing along those lines, but excited to hear that she had some offers come her way. You make a good argument in pointing out that being on a TV show such as this one does not allow you to capture a person’s complete demeanor.
Speaking of not being able to show as much on TV as we would wish, did anyone else notice that Monique wasn’t in the chip commercial that the contestants were in? What gives?? Maybe I just missed seeing her, but I didn’t think she was in it! Do they film those after people have left the show? If so, that is silly, because you could tell who left the show!
No didn't notice! Will watch again.
patns
Apr 1 2006, 12:38 AM
Monique was not the one I was voting for, but I can't see why people were upset with her remarks. The way they do the eliminations builds up incredible tension and she was trying to lighten the moment. People understandably get emotional when eliminated and she was letting people know she was fine with it and was taking it in stride. Best of luck to her in the future.
Moniques_Fan
Apr 3 2006, 06:17 PM
Thanks Patns.
Highwayfifteen
Apr 4 2006, 02:16 PM
CottonCowgirl
Apr 4 2006, 11:45 PM
I was impressed with Monique from the first week. I was impressed with Monique when she was voted off. She presents herself as a sassy classy redneck and she approached the vote off with humor and by being pro-active. That is what is taugh to us young women these days, to be pro-active and although it sounds odd when we see that quality because we as a general public are not accustomed to pro-active women so we make note of that behavior and consider it offensive.
Get over yourselves and stop putting this beautiful woman down with your negative comments. She brought versatility to the competition. A lot of American Women can identify with Monique.
Poohbear69
Apr 5 2006, 03:18 AM
WoooHooo! I loved Monique!! She is beautiful, classy, an exquisite voice and a wonderful sense of humor. As well, she knows who she is and what she wants.
Honestly, I can't believe she was voted off! Makes me not want to watch any further...they kept the yodeler and got rid of a remarkable woman. I'm sure its not the last we've heard or seen of her!
A_Monique_Fan
Apr 5 2006, 08:38 PM
First of all, I want to say that Monique is a real close friend of mine.
Second, it doesn't matter if you know her or not, but you should really watch what you say about her. Why? Because you don't know her, you don't have the right to judge her on a comment she had at the end of the show. I can understand that this is a bulletin and you can say things you want, but still...if you don't know someone personally then you should not make comments like you did. Monique is not a serious person, she is someone who can take a bad situation, and make the best of it. That is how she is, and has always been.
On another note, you are going to feel real dumb "Beauty Queen" when she becomes a famous artist.
And "Cowboy", this is not a beauty contest but that should not matter...but personally she is beautiful. She is a beautiful person inside and out, but you are the type who only goes for looks in someone and that is gonna suck in the long run.
That's all I have to say about this, and you all should be ashamed of yourself. I don't see you guys out there on that stage.
And for all those who supported Monique...great job!! You are the reason she does what she does!!!
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