IrishEyes
Mar 28 2006, 10:32 PM
The city where I teach is starting to impose a curfew on the kids. They have to be off the streets by 10 Sunday thru Thursday and I think it is 11 on weekends. Does anyone else have such a curfew? What are your opinions on this issue? Thanks...
sharrie15
Mar 28 2006, 10:34 PM
the school system for baltimore suck. but the teachers are funny my school we learn and crack jokes all day.
i dont have a curfew and im 15 1/2.
IrishEyes
Mar 28 2006, 10:36 PM
Baltimore County Public Schools are almost if not as bad as the DC schools...
Katie081990
Mar 28 2006, 11:20 PM
I don't think there's a curfew where I live. But what sucks here is that they're changing the age you can get your license at to seventeen and a half! And if the law is passed I will have to get my license when I am a senior, and someone born 10 days before me can get theirs when they are a junior.
sharrie15
Mar 28 2006, 11:24 PM
yeah that is true...but they get treated so much better than the city schools. high school in baltimore is about to wear uniform. 8 schools are closing in the city. baltimore county they are having a good year. and some of them dont have to wear uniforms. it sucks. and all the high schools olmost got 700 students. no lie.
Elliott_rulez
Mar 28 2006, 11:24 PM
i don't think Florida has a curfew, i got my license at 16 y/o right on my bday. why do they make ya'll get your license so late? i would go on strike? lol, but that's just me
IrishEyes
Mar 28 2006, 11:27 PM
The high school I taught at in MD had over 2000 students in it...
Elliott_rulez
Mar 28 2006, 11:27 PM
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yeah that is true...but they get treated so much better than the city schools. high school in baltimore is about to wear uniform. 8 schools are closing in the city. baltimore county they are having a good year. and some of them dont have to wear uniforms. it sucks. and all the high schools olmost got 700 students. no lie.
sounds like my high school, in orlando. we actually had the most suspensions and expellsions(sp?) during my senior yr. we had around 500 seniors and get this only 317 of them graduated
KatRose
Mar 28 2006, 11:32 PM
I don't know if L.A. has curfews set in place, but I think it's a good idea. It gives kids boundaries to live within and parents some backing when they say, "Be home by 10." I don't know about your area, but some that have curfews do have leeway for students that work, so they can still be on the roads going to or from work after curfew.
I would love to see more parents utilize a curfew, regardless of official status, to have a better idea of where their kids are and what they're doing. I know that there are many students that are trustworthy and don't get into trouble as a general rule, but there are just as many that do.
Regarding the driver's license change, I think it's a good idea. Younger teens don't tend to think with their brains, they tend to just react. They don't use their judgement as well as they could and tend to get distracted too easily.
I say this from personal experience. I got my license at 16 and nearly got into an accident because I was concentrating on my conversation more than the road. Yet a few short years later, I would have been less distracted due to age and other responsibilities (job, graduation, etc).
A friend's daughter is dealing with this right now up in Oregon. They have a two-tiered system up there. If a student has at least a B average, they can get a provisional license, but if their grades slip, they lose the right to drive. If they don't have a B average, they can't get their license until they're 18. Not a bad compromise.
sharrie15
Mar 28 2006, 11:36 PM
10pm is early..
ilive in baltimore so its when ever long as you in the house by 12am or you are on the front porch its as long as you want..
KatRose
Mar 28 2006, 11:41 PM
Here's something that came out in the press today that I think works in conjunction with this topic:
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U.S. Teens Falling Short on Sleep
Survey: 4 out of 5 Adolescents Don't Get the Optimal Amount of Sleep
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Medical News
March 28, 2006 -- Most U.S. adolescents are falling short on sleep , a new survey shows.
Results of the National Sleep Foundation's "2006 Sleep in America Poll" include:
* One in five adolescents get the optimal amount of sleep for their age group (nine or more hours per night).
* Nearly half (45%) get an insufficient amount of sleep (less than eight hours per night).
* High school students are more likely to have a sleep shortfall than those in middle school.
Adolescents with sleep shortfalls are more likely to report crankiness, school tardiness, and drowsy driving, the survey shows. But many parents are in the dark about their teens' sleep deficits, according to the National Sleep Foundation.
The nationwide poll, done by telephone last fall, included about 1,600 adolescents aged 11-17 and their parents.
Slacking on Sleep
About half of adolescents reported feeling "too tired" or "sleepy" during the day. A similar number noted difficulty falling asleep at least once in the past two weeks.
Other findings include:
* Nearly 20% admitted falling asleep in school at least once in the last two weeks.
* More than a quarter said they felt too tired to exercise or be physically active in the last two weeks.
* Older adolescents were more likely to stay up later, nap, and not have a set bedtime.
* Skimping on sleep also went hand-in-hand with drinking more caffeine, being late to school, and falling asleep doing homework.
Adolescents who reported feeling depressed, hopeless, nervous, tense, or too worried were more likely to report taking longer to fall asleep on school nights, getting too little sleep, and having sleep problems related to sleepiness, the survey states.
Drowsy Driving
The poll included 512 adolescents who were drivers.
About half of those adolescents admitted that they had driven while drowsy in the past year. A smaller group -- 15% -- said they had driven while drowsy at least once a week in the past year.
The survey showed that 5% of the drivers reported nodding off or falling asleep while driving in the past year.
It's not that teens didn't know the dangers of drowsy driving. Nearly seven out of 10 of those who had had driver's education or training said they had been given information about sleep and fatigue.
Parents Out of the Loop
Nine out of 10 parents reported that they believed their adolescent got enough sleep at least a few nights a week on school nights.
It's not clear if the parents thought their children were getting nine or more hours of nightly sleep, or if they defined "enough sleep" differently than the sleep experts cited in the survey.
Adolescents indicated that they needed about eight hours of sleep to feel their best during the day. When asked if they could say, "I had a good night's sleep" every night or almost every night a week, about four in 10 agreed.
They also reported having lots of electronic distractions in their bedrooms, including:
* Electronic music device: 90%
* TV: 57%
* Electronic/video games: 43%
* Cell phone: 42%
* Land-line telephone: 34%
* Computer: 28%
* Internet access: 21%
Foundation's Advice
A National Sleep Foundation news release includes these sleep-friendly tips for adolescents:
* Go to bed and get up at consistent times, even on weekends.
* Get at least nine hours of sleep nightly.
* Have a relaxing routine before bed, such as reading for fun or taking a warm bath or shower.
* Keep the bedroom comfortable, dark, and quiet.
* Get into bright light as soon as possible in the morning.
* Avoid bright light in the evening.
* Keep TVs and other distractions out of the bedroom.
* Limit TV and other distractions before bedtime.
* Avoid caffeine after lunch.
Parents can also help by serving as role models for good sleep habits, says the National Sleep Foundation. Funding for the National Sleep Foundation comes from sources such as foundations, federal agencies, and corporations including pharmaceutical companies.
sharrie15
Mar 28 2006, 11:43 PM
yeah thats true because i watch tv alot and be on the computer alot and sometimes i fall a sleep in some class
Katie081990
Mar 28 2006, 11:47 PM
Yeah, many people were talking about how much of a difference waiting would make today (because they just announced it today or something). In my opinion (of course I'm biased because I'm mad that most of my friends will have their license and not me) I don't think it's a good idea. I mean, when you're 17 1/2 I think it's even more likely you'd drink & drive because you'd probably be more likely to have friends who are 21. Plus, if you get in an accident when you just get your license, and say you're 18... You can't be tried in Juvi anymore. So even if the kid made an honest mistake, they'd get more time than if they made it a year before. Plus, I don't think anyone will obey the law at first, because many people will have friends who are driving without parents and they won’t consider it a big deal. Finally, if this law is made, many kids will just wait 6 more months to get their license because in Mass., you aren’t required to take drivers education to get your license once you reach the age of 18. So then there would just be a ton of inexperienced 18 year old drivers on the road instead of experienced 16 ½ year olds. All just my opinion... sorry I wrote so much, I've been talking about it all day LOL.
As for the curfew, I think it's an okay idea. When I was in England, people would stay out till 2 or 3am, and that's when a lot of trouble happened. I mean, it would suck to have a curfew, but it would prevent lots of bad things from happening.
KatRose
Mar 28 2006, 11:55 PM
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I mean, when you're 17 1/2 I think it's even more likely you'd drink & drive because you'd probably be more likely to have friends who are 21. Plus, if you get in an accident when you just get your license, and say you're 18... You can't be tried in Juvi anymore. So even if the kid made an honest mistake, they'd get more time than if they made it a year before. Plus, I don't think anyone will obey the law at first
That's got to be one of the craziest reasons I've seen about why younger teens should be given their licenses. I'm not belittling you, just the fact that this sentiment is probably rather prevalent in teens. "We're going to drink and drive, so why not let us drink and drive earlier." ::shaking head::
Getting into an accident isn't going to put you in jail, unless you're driving drunk, then, regardless of age, you'll be arrested. Accidents happen all the time and unless the driver does something negligent, deliberate or hazardous to cause the accident, I don't know of many circumstances where they'd be arrested and sent to jail.
Also, if teens aren't going to obey the law at first, shouldn't we postpone their access to a driver's license until their 21? This coincides with the ability to vote, which also signifies transition from teen to adulthood.
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because in Mass., you aren’t required to take drivers education to get your license once you reach the age of 18. So then there would just be a ton of inexperienced 18 year old drivers on the road instead of experienced 16 ½ year olds.
Then the state of Mass. could implement a new law that says all drivers, regardless of age, are required to take a driver's ed class. Personally speaking, that wouldn't be a bad way to go. Here in L.A. many people could GREATLY benefit from such a requirement. Besides, how is a 16½ year-old all that "experienced" when they've only been driving for 6 months? I know of some 40-year-olds who are just learning to drive and they're "experience" behind the wheel may be the same as that 16½-year-old, but because of the added years of life experience, they're better at the behind-the-wheel stuff.
Remember, driving's a privilege, not a right. With privileges comes responsibility.
sharrie15
Mar 28 2006, 11:57 PM
im 15 1/2 and in maryland your permitt license if you are 15 in 9 months. then if you are 17 in 9 months you can get your license. i get my permitt in july 2006.
daisygirl
Mar 29 2006, 12:13 AM
In New Orleans, we've had a city-wide imposed curfew for years because our murder rate was ridiculous. We were the murder capital of the United States. Most of the people involved with crimes were teenagers. Anyway, I think all kids under 17 years old have to be inside between the hours of 11pm-6am unless they have permission to work late, have a school-organized event that runs late, or have an emergency. I'm not sure if this curfew is still in affect since the hurricane.
cMuhHackey
Mar 29 2006, 01:34 AM
I’m not sure about L.A either, but I'm in Orange County and we do have a curfew of 10pm for all minors. Has anyone seen the movie V for Vendetta? All this talk of curfew reminds me of it.
ETA: My curiosity lead me to a little search. L.A does have a curfew of 10 pm.
http://www.iir.com/nygc/Municipal%20Codes/...ode--curfew.htm
KatRose
Mar 29 2006, 01:37 AM
I saw V For Vendetta too. That curfew was for everyone, not just teens. That, imho, is extreme. But having a curfew for teens seems reasonable to me.
cMuhHackey
Mar 29 2006, 01:43 AM
Yes, way extreme.
stablersfan
Mar 29 2006, 02:11 AM
i dont know what the curfew is here, i live on a navy base and there is one but i dont know what it is. i am always out but havent gotton caught yet its cool i am always with someone who will back me up. the military police get serious at night though so i am careful.
brandy51477
Mar 29 2006, 02:45 AM
They have a curfew here in Vegas and they also did in parts of Birmingham for minors. There are a lot of larger cities that have them but people do not realize it because they don't hear much about them being enforced. Myself as a parent I fully support curfews. I know what I got away with as a teenager,getting chased out of parking lots and parks by police,drinking nothing too serious but it could have been worse. Doing all that I still had to be home at 10 on school nights and 12 on weekends and usually didn't get to leave my house till 6 as it was. I could have gotten into a lot of trouble had I been able to stay out later.
sharrie15
Mar 29 2006, 06:28 AM
wow thats messed up.
IrishEyes
Mar 29 2006, 06:30 AM
Thanks for all your posts...I will let my students know that they are not the only ones with a curfew. I am personally all for it. Why do you need to hang out on a street corner at midnight when you could be in a house? Thanks again...
sharrie15
Mar 29 2006, 06:44 AM
yeah. anytime great topic
Olivia33
Mar 29 2006, 08:36 PM
I don't think my city has a curfew. Just the ones for new drivers and stuff. I can't drive yet, and I'll have to wait ulmoat until my senior year to drive, but I think curfews are good ideas. They can provent lots of accidents.
Mariska_Olivia
Apr 5 2006, 06:51 AM
No curfew.
P.S. What's OT and y/o?
IrishEyes
Apr 5 2006, 07:32 AM
OT = off topic meaning not svu related
y/o = I am not sure of that...
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