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#21 kmer2

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:25 PM

At the risk of sounding like a bonehead, I really don't give a crap whether my kids find out about Luke's association with a pornographic wrestling league. If they were to decide Luke was their favorite wrestler, I imagine it would be because of his performance and not because of a presumed non-association in any gay wrestling leagues.

Yes, there is gay porn out there. Yes, Luke wrestled for a company that does wrestling porn, although he didn't wrestle nude. And yes, my personal guess would be that Luke is gay, although I could be wrong. I don't see what that has to do with what he does in wrestling.

And don't worry, if the s#it hit the fan and a bunch of people with nothing else to do made a huge fuss out of this, Vince McMahon could figure out a way to work it to his advantage.

I just don't think it's a big deal. Hell, I read James Dean used to turn tricks before hitting it big in Hollywood. So what?



This isn't about his association necessarily.

Damn. Doesn't anyone rerad what's said here before responding with critism?

MAybe you wouldn't care if the knew, but if they are young, like under 21, then you should damn well care if they are watching gay porn on the internet, and this has ben the basis , at least for me, in my disapproval of Luke's candidacy.

Because he can become well known, kids will certainly become aware of who he is, and this will definitely happen because he wrestle's for the WWE.

Because of that, it would be easy for a child to research Luke on the internet, hell, there are even some links on this board that take you to his gay porn sites.

You can't be that uncaring about child abuse to endorse that children be allowed to easily surf gay porn.

Come on!!!

I can't even take you seriously right now!!

#22 kmer2

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:29 PM

:lol:
I visited the link you posted in the other thread. Yes, Luke clearly participates in homoerotica. But I stand by my original statement... I don't really care, and if my kids found out it wouldn't be the end of the world. It's not as if they say, "CM Punk is so awesome... I bet he doesn't participate in homoerotica!"

Gay porn/erotica is a fact of life. Supply and demand. I'm not really sure why Luke would have done that unless he was really strapped for cash, but I'm not going to hold it against him.


With these few words, you have told everyone here exactly how possible it can become for kids to become exposed to what Luke has done for a living..

If you have kids at all, and condone their viewing of porn of any kind, then you are by definition, a child abuser. You don't have to do the actual abuse. All you have to do is enable them, encourage them. I know that you would never cross that line, but to even think that it would be ok to have someone like Luke as their role model is pretty out there.

I don't believe for one second you have kids, or are even an adult.

MAybe you are gay, and support Luke foir this reason. If so, good for you.

THis is not a bias/hate war, and nobody has run Luke down, but as I have said repeatedly, TNA Impact just last week rescinded their contract to Chyna because she made a straight porno.

It is every responsible adult's clear obligation to keep every child, whether it's their own or no, away from pornography of any kind.

And, just as a side note, from the descriptions of another poster here, it begins as erotica, and then the wrestling gets naked, and progresses to fellatio, and intercourse. In short....classic, textbook pornography.

Edited by kmer2, 07 June 2011 - 09:39 PM.


#23 Mordechai

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 07:15 PM

With these few words, you have told everyone here exactly how possible it can become for kids to become exposed to what Luke has done for a living..

If you have kids at all, and condone their viewing of porn of any kind, then you are by definition, a child abuser. You don't have to do the actual abuse. All you have to do is enable them, encourage them. I know that you would never cross that line, but to even think that it would be ok to have someone like Luke as their role model is pretty out there.

I don't believe for one second you have kids, or are even an adult.

MAybe you are gay, and support Luke foir this reason. If so, good for you.

THis is not a bias/hate war, and nobody has run Luke down, but as I have said repeatedly, TNA Impact just last week rescinded their contract to Chyna because she made a straight porno.

It is every responsible adult's clear obligation to keep every child, whether it's their own or no, away from pornography of any kind.

And, just as a side note, from the descriptions of another poster here, it begins as erotica, and then the wrestling gets naked, and progresses to fellatio, and intercourse. In short....classic, textbook pornography.


Wow. You have seen right through me. You are so obviously right on this that anyone who disagrees is a kid or a troll. Well done!

(I submit as proof of my adulthood the fact that I can write a coherent sentence. I'm actually just a year younger than you. I no longer have children living in the house, so I speculate a bit as to how I would react to certain things.)

Actually, Kmer2, I've read your posts on these threads and you seem like a decent person. I have no beef with you nor do I want to. I would suggest it's not helpful to claim that people with other opinions than yours are "child abusers" or whatnot. Get over yourself a little, maybe. And the link you posted earlier is a gateway to a gay porn site but is not a gay porn site itself. Kids doing google image searches for school projects undoubtedly come across worse!

In any event, I think you strain at gnats a bit, but I respect your opinion and don't doubt that you are a good parent. Let's just leave it at that so we can cordially discuss show-related matters on other threads. I'm not sure why, but I totally got hooked on this show this time around.

Peace.

Edited by Mordechai, 08 June 2011 - 07:25 PM.


#24 Craigzilla

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:48 AM

I only read the first post in this thread, and that's all I needed. The original poster is full of crap. I went to google. I googled Luke Robinson's name. Nothing came up within the first two pages of Google, other than info on him being on Tough Enough. So I went to google images. The vast majority were photos of OTHER celebrities doing various things, like eating lunch, one was playing soccer and so forth.

So I googled "Luke Robinson WWE". Once again nothing came up about him other than him being on Tough Enough. I google imaged him. Saw plenty of pics of him, but nothing a child wouldn't be allowed to see.

My search settings were set to allow any sort of image to come through, regardless of how hard-core or tame it was.

Frankly, the original poster should have done all of this as well before writing his rant. Because now....he just seems like a homophobic jerk.

Luke Robinson is  talented athlete who deserves a contract (that being said, my original pick to win it all from the beginning was Andy, but yes, Luke still deserves a contract). His past is his business, and he worked for a legitimate business in the past and did nothing illegal, or in my view, nothing immoral.

Google does NOT bring up and sexual images of him doing anything (unless you really dig, but even then you have to be intentionally looking for them). I just checked.

The original poster really needs to grow up. It's 2011. Not 1911. There are gay people in the world. It will never change. Learn to deal with it. I find it HORRIBLE you started this topic, when there is nothing there to be concerned about. I find it horrible no one else has double checked what you wrote and called you out on it. And I find it ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE that you would call Luke out for this, but you don't say one single word about links on google that take you to porn done by former WWE Divas Mickie James, or Candice Michelle or former WWECW GM Tiffany. You don't say one single word about Candice Michelle having nude photos on the first page of Google Images of her.

You're ridiculous.

(p.s. I also google imaged the term "Luke Robinson gay" and not one single sexual image popped up. You're a liar, plain and simple.)

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:53 AM

Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet. That's YOUR job to do.

Stating that someone should not be able to pursue a dream of theirs because it will make your job as a parent more difficult is just absurd. If you're allowing your kids on google there are settings that you can customize to only allow specific images and websites for various age groups, to come through.

So if you're kid happens to see pics of Luke in homosexual or homoerotic situations  (because you clearly aren't worried about the kid seeing Candice Michelle in a 3 way), then the only one at fault is YOU for not have your setting, set correctly, and for not monitoring your child properly.

(Oh and by the way, chances are Luke won't even be using his real name anyways. WWE stopped allowing wrestlers to do that shortly after Cody Rhodes joined the main roster. Do you really think Dolph Ziggler, or Sin Cara, or Jack Swagger are REAL names? John Morrison isn't even his real name. You seem pretty knowledgeable on wrestling consider the great Strongbow reference, but I think you know less about wrestling than you care to admit. Because otherwise this would have never been a topic in the first place.)

Edited by Craigzilla, 09 June 2011 - 03:58 AM.


#26 Mordechai

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 07:13 AM

Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet. That's YOUR job to do.

Stating that someone should not be able to pursue a dream of theirs because it will make your job as a parent more difficult is just absurd. If you're allowing your kids on google there are settings that you can customize to only allow specific images and websites for various age groups, to come through.

So if you're kid happens to see pics of Luke in homosexual or homoerotic situations (because you clearly aren't worried about the kid seeing Candice Michelle in a 3 way), then the only one at fault is YOU for not have your setting, set correctly, and for not monitoring your child properly.

(Oh and by the way, chances are Luke won't even be using his real name anyways. WWE stopped allowing wrestlers to do that shortly after Cody Rhodes joined the main roster. Do you really think Dolph Ziggler, or Sin Cara, or Jack Swagger are REAL names? John Morrison isn't even his real name. You seem pretty knowledgeable on wrestling consider the great Strongbow reference, but I think you know less about wrestling than you care to admit. Because otherwise this would have never been a topic in the first place.)


When I first heard about this situation, I tried to confirm it on Google, and I had a pretty easy time doing so. I came across images that made it look as though Luke likely participated in some sort of homoerotic wrestling league. That being said, I did NOT come across any pornographic images, and in order to actually watch him in action I'd have to shell out $40, which I have no interest in doing. I mean, he's a good looking guy and all, but still... public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

The anti-Luke crowd seems to be mad that kids can easily find out that he did this sort of thing (although in your experience I understand it wasn't as easy). And that's exactly what I--and presumably you--don't have a problem with. I'm tired of a world where everything is a scandal. If Miss America poses nude for pictures, they strip her of her title. I really don't care what Luke has done in his past, and my kids--though now grown--likely wouldn't have either.

Luke was my early pick, with Jeremiah as my dark horse. I just thought Andy was a hard working guy who would hang in there longer than most because he wanted it more. In my opinion, Luke is ready now, and the rest are works in progress.

By the way, prepare yourself for a lecture on not reading every post and on how you're probably a kid.

"Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet. That's YOUR job to do."

Bingo. But easier said than done. Do a Google search on Martin Luther King, for example, and see where it takes you...

Peace out.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 09:03 AM

Amen to that! Two more sane people here! Lol. I totally agree with you. I don't frankly care what he did in his past, it is his performance in the ring! He did deserve the contract and I agree Vince would've been able to handle it like everything else! And they have parental controls that can be set so kids can't access inappropriate content. I was accused of not researching and reading the posts too....

Peace out!

When I first heard about this situation, I tried to confirm it on Google, and I had a pretty easy time doing so.  I came across images that made it look as though Luke likely participated in some sort of homoerotic wrestling league.  That being said, I did NOT come across any pornographic images, and in order to actually watch him in action I'd have to shell out $40, which I have no interest in doing.  I mean, he's a good looking guy and all, but still...  public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

The anti-Luke crowd seems to be mad that kids can easily find out that he did this sort of thing (although in your experience I understand it wasn't as easy).  And that's exactly what I--and presumably you--don't have a problem with.  I'm tired of a world where everything is a scandal.  If Miss America poses nude for pictures, they strip her of her title.  I really don't care what Luke has done in his past, and my kids--though now grown--likely wouldn't have either.

Luke was my early pick, with Jeremiah as my dark horse.  I just thought Andy was a hard working guy who would hang in there longer than most because he wanted it more.  In my opinion, Luke is ready now, and the rest are works in progress.

By the way, prepare yourself for a lecture on not reading every post and on how you're probably a kid.  

"Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they  obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet.  That's YOUR job to do."

Bingo.  But easier said than done.  Do a Google search on Martin Luther King, for example, and see where it takes you...

Peace out.



#28 JaneAlanaRoss

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:41 PM

I don't get how somebody can read the first post only and then presume that to be "all that is needed" (clearly identified as incorrect by statements about homophobia... I haven't seen anyone being homophobic in this topic).

Here, it is simple:

If: you want to have an opinion on a thread and call other people out on what they said
Then: read the whole thread

If: you don't want to read the whole thread
Then: you have no business calling other people out on what they said

So... do the reading!
Damn, people on the internet are lazy sometimes.
If you're too lazy to read, then how about being too lazy to write?

I could understand if it was one of those ridiculous monster threads you sometimes get on message boards that were started 2 years ago and contain 3000 posts or something like that... but one and a half pages of text? Come on! That's easy!

While I do care about the issue of children seeing the porn, for me that is not the main issue, because I think that is simply the uncontrolled nature of the internet and they are going to see something nasty on the internet probably, if they look long enough. Personally I would not let children onto the internet in the first place. Being uncontrolled from the very basis of how it works, there can be no true way to ensure safety. And children, with those growing, inquisitive, explorational minds are always thinking, trying to find ways around things, and stuff like that. The internet is in no way necessary either. Not for a kid.

I do sympathise with the view that enabling children to see porn is abusive. That's not right at all. It can certainly be accidental, but if you know about it and then let it continue then that wouldn't be accidental any more. I think the criticism against that view is a little unfair, although it was put in maybe a bit of a harsh way to begin with.

No, my main problem with Luke's past activity is that it degrades pro wrestling and gives it a bad name.
This is not something he needed to do, and it is not something he has acknowledged or apologised for.
It's something he did for the cash and/or the kicks and then supposes he doesn't need to make up for it at all, pretends it didn't happen.
Isn't that a bit telling about his whole attitude?
Disrespectful is what I call it.

Put aside for a moment the issue of children seeing it.
What about moronic adults who like to look down their noses snobbishly at pro wrestling?
Who enjoy showing it disrespect and kicking it around like some kind of sports superiority bully?

Oh look, the stupid little wrestling.
Did you know their champion did a different kind of "wrestling".
Yes we all heard about that kind of "wrestling".
Isn't [insert random sport] such a great proper sport and wrestling such a fake sport.
Hell at least those porno bits were real huh? With the orgasms?
Yeah huh huh huh how funny are us
How funny are us indeed

^ that kind of attitude happens plenty.
What chance of ever getting over that hurdle when we've got people coming in from porn wrestling, huh?
No chance whatsoever. Not a hope in hell.

That's why I think he doesn't deserve a spot.
Because he spat in wrestling's face.
And for that reason alone, thousands of people with half his talent deserve it more.
(and there are thousands of people out there with all of his talent, who didn't degrade wrestling, and who never got a chance)

That's why it makes me sick he got a chance when somebody with some honor didn't in his place.
There are just certain things you do in life which SHOULD come back to bite you in the butt.
You can't just forgive EVERYTHING.
And if you were to forgive him, he should at least so much as acknowledge it, at least that. And then apologise for it.
In fact if he did that, and made it widely known that what he did was disrespectful and immoral, then... give him his chance!
(but not a mark of honor for apologising... that shouldn't give him any advantage... that should merely get him back up to zero)

Same goes for anybody else who does wrestling porn.
I don't give a damn that it's gay. What's wrong with it is that it's porn.

#29 kmer2

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 05:46 PM

Wow. You have seen right through me. You are so obviously right on this that anyone who disagrees is a kid or a troll. Well done!

(I submit as proof of my adulthood the fact that I can write a coherent sentence. I'm actually just a year younger than you. I no longer have children living in the house, so I speculate a bit as to how I would react to certain things.)

Actually, Kmer2, I've read your posts on these threads and you seem like a decent person. I have no beef with you nor do I want to. I would suggest it's not helpful to claim that people with other opinions than yours are "child abusers" or whatnot. Get over yourself a little, maybe. And the link you posted earlier is a gateway to a gay porn site but is not a gay porn site itself. Kids doing google image searches for school projects undoubtedly come across worse!

In any event, I think you strain at gnats a bit, but I respect your opinion and don't doubt that you are a good parent. Let's just leave it at that so we can cordially discuss show-related matters on other threads. I'm not sure why, but I totally got hooked on this show this time around.

Peace.


Listen...enoguh.

I hate fights.

But you state that it's alright, and that you condone children, specifically yours, are ok being exposed to gay erotica, and gay porn.

You wrote that, I didn't. And now you accuse me of calling you a kid, or worse, a troll.

I have said none of this.

You want to be cordial??

Cease from advocating potential child abuse issues, and cease all discussion about children looking at, and discussing gay erotica nad porn.

You do that, and I can be cordial.

Shouild you not, I will report you, and turn over all posts here to the State Police, and whoever else chases anyone nremotely associated with child abuse.

That's it.

I truly believe that you would never do that, not do I believe that you would really condone yours, or any other child sit around after watching wrestling and then troll the net and heading to gay boards, gay sites, and watch Luke do his thing.

I just don't understand whay you would write, publicly that you are ok with that.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 05:51 PM

I only read the first post in this thread, and that's all I needed. The original poster is full of crap. I went to google. I googled Luke Robinson's name. Nothing came up within the first two pages of Google, other than info on him being on Tough Enough. So I went to google images. The vast majority were photos of OTHER celebrities doing various things, like eating lunch, one was playing soccer and so forth.

So I googled "Luke Robinson WWE". Once again nothing came up about him other than him being on Tough Enough. I google imaged him. Saw plenty of pics of him, but nothing a child wouldn't be allowed to see.

My search settings were set to allow any sort of image to come through, regardless of how hard-core or tame it was.

Frankly, the original poster should have done all of this as well before writing his rant. Because now....he just seems like a homophobic jerk.

Luke Robinson is talented athlete who deserves a contract (that being said, my original pick to win it all from the beginning was Andy, but yes, Luke still deserves a contract). His past is his business, and he worked for a legitimate business in the past and did nothing illegal, or in my view, nothing immoral.

Google does NOT bring up and sexual images of him doing anything (unless you really dig, but even then you have to be intentionally looking for them). I just checked.

The original poster really needs to grow up. It's 2011. Not 1911. There are gay people in the world. It will never change. Learn to deal with it. I find it HORRIBLE you started this topic, when there is nothing there to be concerned about. I find it horrible no one else has double checked what you wrote and called you out on it. And I find it ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE that you would call Luke out for this, but you don't say one single word about links on google that take you to porn done by former WWE Divas Mickie James, or Candice Michelle or former WWECW GM Tiffany. You don't say one single word about Candice Michelle having nude photos on the first page of Google Images of her.

You're ridiculous.

(p.s. I also google imaged the term "Luke Robinson gay" and not one single sexual image popped up. You're a liar, plain and simple.)



ANd you are sorely mistaken.

Go to the BG East and you will see on their frontpage, now that Luke has some fame, that he is featured prominently.

For gods sake.

I'm a liar?

I wasn't the person who broke this here on the boards.

It was Prowrestling.net.

It's all over the yahoo boards, the NY Daily News, wrestlecrap, prowrestlingfans, etc., etc.

In shore....IT'S ALL OVER THE DAMNED INTERNET.

I also did not write the post here about his featured performance in "Hunkbash", and the others. It was written here that those vids start as skimpy clothed wrestlers who begin by wrestling, and then it progresses to naked wrestling, then...whatever two naked guys do together when strip each other, oil each other up, and just play around with each other.

All you have to do is go to the BG East homepage where they advertise the "Erotica", and then under Luke's picture (s), there a dozens of banners that take to you any number of other gay sites.

AND BY THE WAY....EVERY WORD IS TRUE!!

I mean,,,what the hell??? Are you serious here??

TRy his "Porn Name"..."Donnie Drake"

Grow the hell up!!

MAybe Luke should have a second chance someday, but hopefully, it will be after these sites don't function anymore. After his "Erotica" isn't online for any kid to easily travel to, even with "filters".

I don't care about who he sleeps with.

Edited by kmer2, 09 June 2011 - 07:00 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2011 - 05:54 PM

Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet. That's YOUR job to do.

Stating that someone should not be able to pursue a dream of theirs because it will make your job as a parent more difficult is just absurd. If you're allowing your kids on google there are settings that you can customize to only allow specific images and websites for various age groups, to come through.

So if you're kid happens to see pics of Luke in homosexual or homoerotic situations (because you clearly aren't worried about the kid seeing Candice Michelle in a 3 way), then the only one at fault is YOU for not have your setting, set correctly, and for not monitoring your child properly.

(Oh and by the way, chances are Luke won't even be using his real name anyways. WWE stopped allowing wrestlers to do that shortly after Cody Rhodes joined the main roster. Do you really think Dolph Ziggler, or Sin Cara, or Jack Swagger are REAL names? John Morrison isn't even his real name. You seem pretty knowledgeable on wrestling consider the great Strongbow reference, but I think you know less about wrestling than you care to admit. Because otherwise this would have never been a topic in the first place.)



BTW TNA Impact just RESCINDED their contract offer to Chyna because of her upcoming Porn Release thru Vivid, stating, among other things, that they fear their association with her would have an undue influence on children who would otherwise choose to follow her"

"J### A##!!

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 06:18 PM

Oh and by the way, it is NOT WWE's responsibility, nor are they obligated, to keep your children away from pornography on the internet. That's YOUR job to do.

Stating that someone should not be able to pursue a dream of theirs because it will make your job as a parent more difficult is just absurd. If you're allowing your kids on google there are settings that you can customize to only allow specific images and websites for various age groups, to come through.

So if you're kid happens to see pics of Luke in homosexual or homoerotic situations (because you clearly aren't worried about the kid seeing Candice Michelle in a 3 way), then the only one at fault is YOU for not have your setting, set correctly, and for not monitoring your child properly.

(Oh and by the way, chances are Luke won't even be using his real name anyways. WWE stopped allowing wrestlers to do that shortly after Cody Rhodes joined the main roster. Do you really think Dolph Ziggler, or Sin Cara, or Jack Swagger are REAL names? John Morrison isn't even his real name. You seem pretty knowledgeable on wrestling consider the great Strongbow reference, but I think you know less about wrestling than you care to admit. Because otherwise this would have never been a topic in the first place.)



You are so far off base here that it's not even funny.

Obviously, there are those who don't use real names, but there others who do.

I have no control over Candice Michelle when she does anything, nor do I have control over Luke and his "male on male sexual activity".

I do have aopinions on it, and frankly, if you took the time to read what has been said here, you would know I'm not the only one.

I didn't break this news.

It happened over at Prowrestling.net

The WWE markets the hell out it's performers.

You couldn't picture a kid, or two kids sitting around talking about Luke, then googling him, and being redirectred to the BG East crap?

What...you don't think they (the BG East won't capitalize on his new found fame??

THEY ALREADY HAVE MORON!! HE'S THE FEATURED WRESTLER ON THEIR HOME PAGE ALREADY!!!

For god's sakes.

This has nothing to do with what we teach our kids, what we forbid them from wtaching, or even filters. I have extremely strong filters, and every so often we get redirected to a porn site.

It happened about three weeks ago when my daughter was googling one of the TMobile Android phones!

You could not possibly be this uneducated about the internet.

And if you want to wage war for "Luke", then head straight over to Yahoo, the go to the editors at the NY Daily NEws.

Then try thre Microsoft people, because this is all over their boards.

Then try to straighten the people out at Prowrestling.net. Wrestlecrap, Prowrestlingfans, etc., etc.

Then perhaps you can get SCSA on the phone, because they obviously decided Luke wasn't good enough.

Oh wait...that was my fault. Wasn't it?

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 06:29 PM

Amen to that! Two more sane people here! Lol. I totally agree with you. I don't frankly care what he did in his past, it is his performance in the ring! He did deserve the contract and I agree Vince would've been able to handle it like everything else! And they have parental controls that can be set so kids can't access inappropriate content. I was accused of not researching and reading the posts too....

Peace out!



You weren't just accused.

\You know you didn't.

And you have been exposed as a pretty decent liar.

You are in several threads here posing as a twelve year old girl.

Why don't you call Vince and tell him we are all wrong, and that Luke deserved/deserves the contract?? Obviously you are right, and they will fix their mistake.

This is not Luke's doing at all.

He has done NOTHING wrong here at all!!

I am positive that Vince will see this your way.

What is wrong with you??

You write about me being wrong about Luke, that he NEVER did any of this.

Then you write that now you knpow he did, but I am still wrong because I am a bigot, and I am prejudiced against gays.

Now, you are applauding another guy who made the same, ignorant posts that you did because he still thinks Luke didn't do any of this, then jump on his back and ride his coattails because he doesn't, like you, believe that porno is wrong, and people shouldn't pay for mistakes.

People go to prison for mistakes every day.

Chyna just lost her job because she has a porno coming out next week..But you knpow what?? It's my fault, not TNA's.

And remember Marv Albert?? Boy. MSG was wrong, and they are immoral for firing him because he only had sex with whores and they on;ly talked about it. He was never caught by cops doing anything wrong. He was fired, and kept off the air for years. Why????> because it's a morals issue. Kids watch him. That's why!!

Bill Clinton was IMPEACHED over his "cigar" issue with Monica, and refusing to talk about it afterwards. Poor guy.

How about Arnold?? ANd his sex scandal. Maria left him. Oh wait. She's a bitch. He deserves a second chance.

How about Brett FAvre?? That Jenn Sterger is sure mean. SHe should never have quit her job over the abuse, because Brett deserves a second chance. He sure is a nice guy.

AND...right now, today...Anthony Weiner?? Why is he being told to step down, and return all his campaign contributions?? Hell...it's only a picture. He didn't even go as far as Luke did.

Poor Charles Barkley. When he was fired from his network gig, and fined by the 76'ers for his sex scandal. Poor guy. He even had the temerity to go on the air and state that the country is wrong because he isn't a role model.

Except he is. ANd the sixers WERE justified!


But I have to be wrong. Maybe I am/was, and so is everyone else across the country. Maria SHriver is a shrew for leaving Arnold. Jenn Sterger is just a drama queen for quitting over Brett's dirty texts, and this lawsuit she filed?? I'm sure if you just write the judge, and tell him what you said here, and about my opinion of Luke, that he'll throw the whole thing out because everyone deserves a second chance.

Luke is not in jail. He is not being deported.

He just did not get a contract from the WWE.

If the WWE wanted Luke to perform there, they would have given him the contract. They didn't. MAybe one day, they will give him a look, but pro wrestlers get exposure, become well known to kids of all ages, as the WWE daily markets action figures, and video games, so whether you like it or not, Luke would become known eventually. You truly don't think the BG (Which stands for Bi-Gay btw...just wanted to point that out) wouldn't amp up their marketing??? They have already made him their face, and he is featured on their homepage due his new found fame.

Luke may get a second chance someday, and maybe he won't.



Jesus. I just don't get it.

And most of all...if you don't like what is written here, then why are you here reading and writing??

But you lost your credibility here anyway. You are after all, just twelve....right??? Isn't this what you have been saying here??

Edited by kmer2, 09 June 2011 - 07:07 PM.


#34 Mordechai

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 09:52 PM

Shouild you not, I will report you, and turn over all posts here to the State Police, and whoever else chases anyone nremotely associated with child abuse.


Yes, by all means, please report all my posts to the state police, because I stand by everything I have said.

I live in Madison, WI. The proper authorities should be able to track me, if necessary, by my IP address, which this site can provide. Also please be aware that I've posted to a few other threads on these forums, so have them check those posts as well.

Please do what you feel is right. Let me know how it goes; I'll check this forum from time to time.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 08:28 AM

Yes, by all means, please report all my posts to the state police, because I stand by everything I have said.

I live in Madison, WI.  The proper authorities should be able to track me, if necessary, by my IP address, which this site can provide.  Also please be aware that I've posted to a few other threads on these forums, so have them check those posts as well.

Please do what you feel is right.  Let me know how it goes; I'll check this forum from time to time.



You make it so clear that responding to you is simply not prudent.

I don't understand whats wrong with you and I don't care.

You made those remarks, in writing, on your own, of your own free will.

Now...you're making a joke out of it.

#36 Mordechai

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:57 AM

I said I would report back, so here I am.

Despite Kmer's efforts at cyberbullying, I was never contacted by any "authorities" simply for expressing my honest opinion on the internet.

To threaten someone for expressing opinions is wrong, and if anyone wants to do so in the future, please feel free to threaten me face to face. (I'm a 48 year old twig and not at all intimidating.)

Also, to post dozens of rambling, run-on posts and then insisting that people read every single one of them before posting (Jane Alana Ross would also do this) on the forum is just subtle form of bullying. Yes, people who enter the discussion without knowing what's going on are annoying, but hijacking each thread and dictating how people respond is arrogant and uncalled for.

I repeat: I am alive and well. For anyone who cares, you can read my posts and see that I never ever advocated child abuse. I raised two kids of my own, and both are successful, happy adults. To suggest otherwise is sick, bullying behavior of the worst kind.

I will be back on these boards next season, and if Kmer or anyone else starts threatening anyone... ANYONE... they will have to answer to me. I have done a lot of research on cyberbullying and know what resources are out there.

So let's enjoy the next season, folks, and say whatever you want! I've got your back, folks.

#37 JaneAlanaRoss

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 06:30 AM

So, if somebody had a genuine problem with being concise, then calling them something like, oh I don't know, a rambling preacher or something like that.  That would be bullying?  Oh no, because I'm not allowed to write long posts.  You can say what you want, apparently, as long as it's short enough for lazy people to be bothered with.  Look at what you're saying yourself before calling OTHER people bullies.

My supposition that deliberately failing to read any post aside from the first one, rather diminishes the validity of you knowing better than anybody else, is absolutely true.  And one and a half pages of text, is absolutely NOT a lot to read through.  I did not say that to try to make somebody else feel bad.  I did not say that to try to score points on anyone or put myself over anyone.  I said it because it's an accurate observation and one that clearly applied to the situation at hand.  It was said that people were being homophobic, for instance.  Nobody was.  That is just one example of how deliberately failing to read through the previous posts DID lead to an invalid opinion about something.  If you expect other people to take the time to read what you've typed, it's quite ill-mannered to boast about not having yourself taken the time to read what they've typed.  It's just simple, basic manners.

Try going through life trying your best but being a social outcast because people call you some kind of weirdo for not being good at writing catchy sentences.  Try being constantly ridiculed for sounding overly-technical when you don't know how to sound like anything else.  Professor know-it-all, posh girl, walking dictionary, miss novel writer.  "I'm not going to listen to you because you're too slow saying it".  "I don't care about your opinion because you use long words to put it across".  I don't know about rich people, but I don't personally get an editing assistant to follow me around every day and shorten my text for me.  I have no helper to do that for me.  I just have to muddle through by myself like most people.  Maybe you want to figure about that before calling me a bully at the same time as bullying me about what I can't do very well.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 02:09 PM

So, if somebody had a genuine problem with being concise, then calling them something like, oh I don't know, a rambling preacher or something like that. That would be bullying? Oh no, because I'm not allowed to write long posts. You can say what you want, apparently, as long as it's short enough for lazy people to be bothered with. Look at what you're saying yourself before calling OTHER people bullies.

My supposition that deliberately failing to read any post aside from the first one, rather diminishes the validity of you knowing better than anybody else, is absolutely true. And one and a half pages of text, is absolutely NOT a lot to read through. I did not say that to try to make somebody else feel bad. I did not say that to try to score points on anyone or put myself over anyone. I said it because it's an accurate observation and one that clearly applied to the situation at hand. It was said that people were being homophobic, for instance. Nobody was. That is just one example of how deliberately failing to read through the previous posts DID lead to an invalid opinion about something. If you expect other people to take the time to read what you've typed, it's quite ill-mannered to boast about not having yourself taken the time to read what they've typed. It's just simple, basic manners.

Try going through life trying your best but being a social outcast because people call you some kind of weirdo for not being good at writing catchy sentences. Try being constantly ridiculed for sounding overly-technical when you don't know how to sound like anything else. Professor know-it-all, posh girl, walking dictionary, miss novel writer. "I'm not going to listen to you because you're too slow saying it". "I don't care about your opinion because you use long words to put it across". I don't know about rich people, but I don't personally get an editing assistant to follow me around every day and shorten my text for me. I have no helper to do that for me. I just have to muddle through by myself like most people. Maybe you want to figure about that before calling me a bully at the same time as bullying me about what I can't do very well.


I'm sorry, Jane. I was too strong in my statement, and in my zeal to show that I had not been cowered by Kmer's threats I threw your name into that statement. I certainly did NOT mean to suggest that your overall level of conduct was anywhere near as inappropriate as Kmer's.

It was wrong to assume that you were trying to "bully" people away from the forums, as I believe Kmer was. I agree with your last statement; I was guilty of what I was accusing you of. Thank you for explaining yourself, and please accept my apology.

Edited by Mordechai, 25 July 2011 - 02:12 PM.





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