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QUOTE (gooie_choclatechip_cookie5 @ May 31 2009, 02:22 PM)
they really shouldn't make out, no shawn and gus or shassie because if there would be anything gay, then my parents would not let me watch the show and that would be really sad
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QUOTE (PsychismyLIFE24 @ Jun 3 2009, 04:50 PM)
are you serious? ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. i mean, nothing against gay people, but seriously, shawn and gus? theyve been best friends since they were 5! and shawn loves the ladies too much.
True, I'm not saying they should like hook up or anything, more like a weird random moment that would be forever awkward. And, no, I don't actually think they are homosexuals, and you're right that homosexuality is not bad, but then why the "ewwwwwwwwww...."? Does Gus love the ladies too? He never seems to get any, seriously. I feel bad for him.
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QUOTE (uhhPINEAPPLES @ Jun 6 2009, 01:40 PM)
You think Gus would date Shawn? He got most likely to succeed in highschool..
Good one. But ... If Gus could do "better," why doesn't he? He's always just tagging along with Shawn, his freaking sidekick, and only like once a season does he ever even talk to a woman, and I don't think he's gotten laid once since the show started. If he was actually gay and getting some from men, then that's not implied on the show at all either. I think Gus has a huge crush on Shawn, and Shawn has no idea, but if Shawn would stop and think about it all, he would wonder why Gus puts up with him. I don't think they would date, no. They would just kiss in some really weird situation, probably while intoxicated or like imprisoned thinking they only had 6 hours left to live or something, which, of course, would turn out not to be the case, and then they'd feel all awkward for the rest of the episode, but viewers would notice Gus expressing some repressed unrequited crush or something, even though it's not entirely sexual anyway. Yeah. I am just making this up as I go along, but I think what I just described would actually work for the show, or if these were real people, but it won't happen on the show, because such a thing would upset too many viewers.
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QUOTE (karma @ Jun 9 2009, 10:30 PM)
You're offended; that is so cute! Let me know what needs clarification in my first paragraph. As for your other points, yes, I was saying that you are losers. I am posting here too, so that makes me a loser as well. Yes, I am against a romance between Shawn and Jules. I was not saying that the writers should go along with it, nor that they should prolong it, but rather that they should stop even addressing the issue. As for the phrase "gay for each other," I am not really sure why anyone finds that offensive any more than when someone says, "That is gay," or even, "that is lame." In fact, I think it is far less offensive to actual homosexuals, especially considering the context (that I was suggesting two men kiss each other, which would be a "gay" thing.)
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I would generally just ignore your reply and let this topic sink to the bottom of the board, but I feel there is at least some merit in explaining my distaste for the phrase you used earlier. I'll instead just ignore the ridiculous and unnecessarily catty remarks included in it. Just so you know, what needed clarification in your first paragraph was your entire first paragraph. The first five lines were one long, run-on sentence.
If you'll go back and read over the topic, no one has stated that the use of "gay" in any of the contexts you've mentioned (excluding the last) is anything less than offensive; quite the opposite, they are incredibly insulting towards gay people and should not be used. I find the phrase "gay for each other" to be particularly offensive because it seeks to undermine the enormity of what "gay" or "homosexual" really means and boil it all down to a frivolous, spur-of-the-moment choice when it is neither of those. It's a phrase my cousin used frequently to try and feel better about himself before he was willing to face his own homosexuality. Now he cringes anytime he hears it. It's a phrase one of my brothers uses to feel justified in his homophobia. I've never heard it used in a way that I've found to be less than offensive, nor can I imagine one.
I'm going to have to stand with MarthaNotGeorge here: Please don't consider yourself to be welcome back unless you choose to continue in your use of the more respectful tone you adopted in reference to uhhPINEAPPLES', bethgreen's, and PsychLuvr's posts. Though I, myself, have certainly been unintentionally rude on occasion, there's no place for it here and it shouldn't be tolerated. (MarthaNotGeorge: I hope you won't mind my occasional adoption of your method, but I like this whole "bolding people's usernames" thing you've got going! It certainly can make longer posts easier to read.)
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Huh. Okay, maybe I watch with blinders on, but I really don't see this 'unresolved tension' between Shawn and Gus OR Shawn and Lassie, even if it is unrequited.
I see Shawn and Gus as best friends (the jokes about being gay from 9 Lives being, in my experience with guys, simply an evolved form of teasing/inside jokery) and that's it.
Why does Gus put up with Shawn? I'd be more inclined to say that, despite his occasional complaints about how Shawn is reckless or irresponsible or whatever critiques he has about Shawn's behavior, he and Shawn still have fun. A lot of fun, in fact. More fun than Gus would probably have without Shawn because Shawn is willing to take risks and while this can be stressful in the moment, afterward, Gus can see that, you know, that was kind of cool.
I mean, really? How else is Gus going to get to tag along and see what the CSU guys do? Or go behind the scenes to watch a Spanish soap opera being filmed? Or run loose in a museum all night long?
(Okay, not that he enjoyed that last one so much. But, hey, think of the story he has to tell now! I have no doubt Gus will pull that little gem out (with, perhaps, a bit of revision) at a party or two in his future.)
Gus, being the genius that he is, knows that hanging out with Shawn can be a huge risk at times, but those who never take risks also lead the most boring lives imaginable.
I'd be fine with the continuation of the occasional 'gay' joke regarding the two of them because, well, yeah, okay I can see how someone who doesn't know them AT ALL might get that impression. Besides, as I said, it's kind of teasing for them.
But I just feel that anything more than that, even in jest or as a 'drunken' mistake or whatever, would be out of character for both Shawn and Gus.
(Which is not to say that I think Shawn has never had a moment like this in his life with someone else. I just don't know that I can buy the two of them being the participants.)
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QUOTE (littleboycat_4 @ Jun 12 2009, 05:43 PM)
Why does that suck? it's disgusting!
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why America isn't truly free. People of certain affiliations are constantly persecuted by those who are are quick to make judgements and inconsiderate enough to try to understand others' situation.
Alright, no politics.
All trolls please remove yourselves from the vicinity. Thou art not welcome here.
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I want to see Shawn make out with Gus.
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