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Director Leon Vance....or is it Director Tyler Owens?

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#1 Morbid_Heat



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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:55 AM

A lot of people think that Leon Vance isn't who he says he is. Obviously this stems from all the inconsistencies in the episode Knockout. Just to give you a run down for those that haven't seen it.

A friend of Director Vance, named Tyler Keith Owen, and Director Vance investigates it.

Inconsistencies are:

1) Director Vance investigated it because he said this man was a former marine....but his Marine file does not exist.
2) The dead mans sister called Director Vance "Teek", a nickname that really goes better with the name Tyler Keith Owen than Leon Vance (that wasn't said on the show, its just an inconsistency that some are pointing out on different forums).
3) Director Vance's wife said that he was a Marine but he never got to serve because he was medically discharged after he had surgery to repair his detached retina, Gibbs responded by saying "I used to think I could spot marines"....Gibbs asked Ducky to check in the autopsy if the dead man had any surgeries, and it was him that actually had the ocular surgery.
4) At one point in the show, Tyler's sister is talking to Tony and she says "...being kidnapped by" and she pauses momentarily and sarcastically says "Leon"....which has led most fans to think that she knows he isn't who he says he is.
5) While Vance is interrogating a man named Joe Banks, Gibbs is watching from behind the glass and makes the comment "he isn't who he says he is...his worse days are behind him". You could assume he was talking about Joe Banks, but some people think that a lot of the lines in that episode had more than one meaning.
6) Also, a lot of people are still wondering about the paper that Director Vance shredded at the end of season 5.

Having said all of that, most people think that the arc of his character will be that at some point in his life, he changed identities with his friend for some reason, and he is really Tyler Owen.

My opinion is, the show is definitely trying to make it seem like Vance isn't who he says he is. Looking at it rationally....I find it really hard to believe that anybody can not only fool a federal agency by getting a job with a fake identity, but end up running that agency under a fake identity. With all the lie detector tests and the background seems almost impossible. While its extremely fishy, and certainly seems that way, in my opinion...that can't possibly be whats going to happen...although, I can't think of any other scenarios with whats happened.

What do you people think?

#2 music_fire74



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Posted 26 March 2009 - 07:14 PM

thank you, I thought I was the only one that thought it. My mom and I finished watching the episode and we both said it almost at the same time, wich brings me to the question: If Leon Vance is really Tyler Owens then why did the real Leon Vance get killed and what does Tyler Owens want with NCIS? think about it.
Thanks for the thought.
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Posted 28 March 2009 - 09:50 PM

There were things about that entire episode bothered me. The whole thing just didn't seem right. The answer's in that envelope Cort gave Gibbs. I kept yelling at the tv for Gibbs to open it, he wouldn't listen :) I may have to watch that one again.


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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:52 PM

Well, the detached retina made that conclusion pretty obvious, but what about fingerprints etc? I know this is television fiction but this stretches "suspension of belief" beyond reasonable limits.

Thanks for spelling it out for me. I was confused.